With a POD of no earlier than 1770, how big could the United States of America grow by 2008?
Er, that's what we took. The entire Northern half. We pretty much stopped when all the good land was gone. That was the great American land grab.We could have probably taken a lot more of Mexico in 1848 then we did. The north didn't have a lot of people and would have been an easy grab.
Er, that's what we took. The entire Northern half. We pretty much stopped when all the good land was gone. That was the great American land grab.
I'm talking about the northern regions of present-day Mexico, not just California and the Four Corners.
One of the leaders of Mexico tried to sell the US Baja California in addition to the Gadsen (sp?) Purchase.
I was thinking about that, but then realized there was probably some big reason why not...Wiki says all the northern states of Mexico bordering America, though I coulda misread it.
Couldn't we have annexed Cuba directly somehow? And someone'll eventually claim in the thread we could have conquered British North America somehow, too...![]()
yes we could have taken cuba in fact I'm not entirely sure why we didn't claim cuba and in fact after ww2 we almost purchased sicily from italy![]()
British North America becoming part of the US is plausible, but would require multiple points of divergence starting very early - a successful Quebec campaign during the Revolutionary War for starters (a POD that alone could only net the US Upper/Lower Canada and maybe Acadia, you'd have to somehow finagle a successful attack on Halifax to get more).
British North America becoming part of the US is plausible, but would require multiple points of divergence starting very early - a successful Quebec campaign during the Revolutionary War for starters (a POD that alone could only net the US Upper/Lower Canada and maybe Acadia, you'd have to somehow finagle a successful attack on Halifax to get more).
A successful Quebec Campaign is one POD. Another is no Canadian Railroad. In the 1860s and 70s Calgary, Edmonton and other western Canadian cities were viewed to a certain extent as economic colonies of the United States. Given enough time and the lack of a railroad, which could be butterflied away by the Pacific Scandal, it would be possible for the United States to claim dominion over Western Canada. There is historical precedent for this too. Oregon was initially a British Dominion, but was ceded to the United States.