"Houston, we have another prob..." <static noise>

Just saw a National Geographic program about Apollo 13 (I've been laid up for a while with a back injury and watching a lot of TV...what can I say...:eek:).

Anyway, it was mentioned that there was a problem with the trajectory of the returning spacecraft which might have caused the craft to burn up in the atmosphere if it had not been corrected. As a result of the need to conserve power, the astronauts had turned off all the navigation equipment, so they had to adjust the course manually, basically by keeping the Earth centered in a window as they turned the craft using manual control. This could easily have gone wrong, and it was only the outstanding skills of the astronauts which allowed it to be successfully accomplished.

It was also mentioned that when the damage to the outside of the service module of the Apollo spacecraft was seen after that module was ejected, the damage was seen to be located very close to the command module (which the astronauts had to use for re-entry). The astronauts, and NASA, were uncertain, until the craft successfully re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, that the explosion which damaged the service module had not damaged the heat shielding of the command module.

So, in either of these two ways (a failure to correct the re-entry trajectory, or damage to the heat shielding of the command module), Apollo 13 could easily have ended up just like the Space Shuttle Columbia...disintegrating in a fireball while re-entering the atmosphere.

What if it had? How would this have affected the U.S. Space program? How seriously would support, and funding, for manned missions into space have been impacted? Would there have been additional Apollo flights? Or Skylab? Or the historic Apollo/Soyuz mission? Or, later, would there have been public support for the Space Shuttle?
 
Just saw a National Geographic program about Apollo 13 (I've been laid up for a while with a back injury and watching a lot of TV...what can I say...:eek:).

Anyway, it was mentioned that there was a problem with the trajectory of the returning spacecraft which might have caused the craft to burn up in the atmosphere if it had not been corrected. As a result of the need to conserve power, the astronauts had turned off all the navigation equipment, so they had to adjust the course manually, basically by keeping the Earth centered in a window as they turned the craft using manual control. This could easily have gone wrong, and it was only the outstanding skills of the astronauts which allowed it to be successfully accomplished.

It was also mentioned that when the damage to the outside of the service module of the Apollo spacecraft was seen after that module was ejected, the damage was seen to be located very close to the command module (which the astronauts had to use for re-entry). The astronauts, and NASA, were uncertain, until the craft successfully re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, that the explosion which damaged the service module had not damaged the heat shielding of the command module.

So, in either of these two ways (a failure to correct the re-entry trajectory, or damage to the heat shielding of the command module), Apollo 13 could easily have ended up just like the Space Shuttle Columbia...disintegrating in a fireball while re-entering the atmosphere.

What if it had? How would this have affected the U.S. Space program? How seriously would support, and funding, for manned missions into space have been impacted? Would there have been additional Apollo flights? Or Skylab? Or the historic Apollo/Soyuz mission? Or, later, would there have been public support for the Space Shuttle?

Well, I don't want to just fob you off with - see this, or this - But I don't really have anything different here.
Sorry...:eek:
 
Well, I don't want to just fob you off with - see this, or this - But I don't really have anything different here.
Sorry...:eek:

Well, since the first link was to a POD where Apollo 13 lands on the moon and comes back, and the other to a POD where Apollo 13 mysteriously disappears without a trace, neither of these really applies.

I was thinking in terms of the impact that having the craft actually burn up in the atmosphere, while being broadcast on national television IN REAL TIME, would have on the national psyche and willingness to pursue space travel. The Columbia tragedy had a tremendous emotional impact on Americans, despite the fact that it wasn't being broadcast live, in real time, on most TV channels. Most people saw that after it happened on their news stations. The reentry of Apollo 13 was being broadcast in real time, and this would have had, IMO, a much deeper impact than even Columbia did.
 
Well, since the first link was to a POD where Apollo 13 lands on the moon and comes back, and the other to a POD where Apollo 13 mysteriously disappears without a trace, neither of these really applies.

I was thinking in terms of the impact that having the craft actually burn up in the atmosphere, while being broadcast on national television IN REAL TIME, would have on the national psyche and willingness to pursue space travel...

Ah, right, got you. Yeah, I suppose that having gone through the stress of having the astronauts nearly die, knowing how close they were to the edge for much of the journey back (that is, if the film Apollo 13 is anything like true to life - I wasn't around at the time): for them to almost make it back, but die in re-entry would be a pretty devastating blow for the whole country, maybe the West as a whole.

Its practically certain that the programme would have been suspended. After all, another crew dead, this would have been two crews in four years. Also, it's not as though there was any rush to do the next moon mission. They'd already been there twice. I suppose one of the things making a fatal Apollo 13 worse than the Apollo 1 fire is this: at least Apollo 1 was on the ground, they could easily investigate what had gone wrong. Also, there had already been concerns about the wiring, and the high-pressure oxygen atmosphere (from what I have read, anyway). This wouldn't be the case with Apollo 13 - the capsule would have checked out as being fine, and so they would only be able to speculate about what happened.

As you suggest, they may have suspected the heat shield. I imagine a thorough re-examination of the heat shield, but most of all the Service Module would be suspect. That would have to be thoroughly re-examined, redesigned etc. I can't help but think it would be difficult to know what more to do with it, though. The thing had worked pretty much flawlessly on - what - Apollos 8-12? Five flights before that. It had already been redesigned because of problems on Apollo 7.

I'm just babbling, not really answering the question. Sorry. Thought I'd reply with this anyway.
 
I'm doing various-threads-about-the-Apollo-Programme-that-have-been-dead-for-a-while bumpage at the moment. So here we are.

This eems to be another one I killed, not sure why...
 
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