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Thande

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Now that would be a clash of the titans...

I assume this is Sir Humphrey as PPS to the PM and Urquhart as PM?
 
The moment that FU decides that Sir Humphrey is being a bother, Sir Humphrey will have a fatal accident.

The moment FU decides that, he'll be swamped with Red Boxes in order to organise a committe that'll look into the possiblity of having Sir Humphrey having something unfortunate happen that'll take eight months and a QANGO before it gives its final reccomendation that Sir Humphrey is far too valuable to the Civil Service and FU owes approximately three thousand pounds in back taxes. :D
 
Now that would be a clash of the titans...

I assume this is Sir Humphrey as PPS to the PM and Urquhart as PM?

PPS = parliamentary private secretary, or in other words an MP who is an unpaid assistant to a Minister. There is no way that Sir Humphrey would stand as an MP.

In "Yes, Prime Minister", Sir Humphrey was Cabinet Secretary, so that should be the position that he would occupy.

Cheers,
Nigel.
 

Thande

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PPS = parliamentary private secretary, or in other words an MP who is an unpaid assistant to a Minister. There is no way that Sir Humphrey would stand as an MP.

Yes, obviously; I meant is this with Humphrey as PPS to the Prime Minister (as opposed to one of the other Cabinet Ministers) so the two directly butt heads.
 
I never saw House of Cards (but I'm planning on seeing it soon), but this sounds like a political duel for the ages. My money's on Humphrey- although that might change once I've seen HOC.
 
Yes, obviously; I meant is this with Humphrey as PPS to the Prime Minister (as opposed to one of the other Cabinet Ministers) so the two directly butt heads.

But Sir Humphrey couldn't be a PPS because he wasn't an MP and had no desire to be an MP. Maybe you mean Sir Humphrey to be a Private Secretary (i.e. the position that Bernard held in the series), but it would be more effective for him to be Cabinet Secretary, where he'd have more opportunity to butt heads with/advise the Prime Minister.

Cheers,
Nigel.
 
The moment FU decides that, he'll be swamped with Red Boxes in order to organise a committe that'll look into the possiblity of having Sir Humphrey having something unfortunate happen that'll take eight months and a QANGO before it gives its final reccomendation that Sir Humphrey is far too valuable to the Civil Service and FU owes approximately three thousand pounds in back taxes. :D

Th eproblem is that (a) FU usualy handled these things with a quiet word to a guy whoi handled these things and (b) Sir Humphrey would not know what was coming until the moment the brakes on his Bentley failed.
 

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Th eproblem is that (a) FU usualy handled these things with a quiet word to a guy whoi handled these things and (b) Sir Humphrey would not know what was coming until the moment the brakes on his Bentley failed.
I'm afraid i have to agree. If we'd restrict both to being able to bend the rules only then Humphrey would probably be able to outmanouever him in due time. But FU is willing and able to simply dispose of people.
 
I would put my money on Urquhart. Quite simply, neither is infallible, but I don't think that Sir Humphrey has ever had to deal with somebody as effective or ruthless as Urquhart is capable of being. And even if neither is able to do more than bend the rules, Urquhart is a very capable manipulator of events. I could easily see him finding some way to take down Sir Humphrey without technically straying from the rules.
 
But Sir Humphrey couldn't be a PPS because he wasn't an MP and had no desire to be an MP.

PPS can, confusingly, refer to both a Principal Private Secretary (a senior member of the civil service) and a Parliamentary Private Secretary, an MP who serves as a non-paid ministerial aid whose function is to monitor Parliamentary opinion.
 
PPS can, confusingly, refer to both a Principal Private Secretary (a senior member of the civil service) and a Parliamentary Private Secretary, an MP who serves as a non-paid ministerial aid whose function is to monitor Parliamentary opinion.

Bernard (aka Basil Brush) was Hacker's Principal Private Secretary. It's quite common just to abbreviate it to private secretary though.
 
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