House of Plantagenet in exile from England

Could there be a scenario in which some male members of the House of Plantagenet survive the Lancasters and go into exile? Perhaps eventually even to the New World? This is inspired by the Empty America timeline.
 
Could there be a scenario in which some male members of the House of Plantagenet survive the Lancasters and go into exile? Perhaps eventually even to the New World? This is inspired by the Empty America timeline.

Going by OTL, it seems easy enough to imagine some high-profile Plantagenet (a descendent of Edward III, say) gets exiled; after all, enough royalty and nobility was banished or fled during that time period. but they had a tendency to return sooner or later, as the political situation became more favorable or they amassed an army, and a lot of them ended up dead. So getting a Plantagenet exiled is easy enough to imagine, but keeping them there, and keeping them extant without them simply assuming a new role somewhere else, seems much harder.
 
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In my TL All Hail Germania, the House of Plantagenet survives through Edward, Earl of Warwick as Dukes of Anjou, eventually dividing into Catholic and Protestant branches with the Protestants fading into obscurity and the Catholic line dying off.
 
The house of Lancaster was Plantagenet!
However it's perfectly feasible that members of the family could have been forced overseas.
Depends when you want the branch to go abroad - you've a limited choice.

Unless you have a Lancastrian victory in the 1460's and the House of York go into exile - Edward IV and his two surviving brothers - then you've a range of options - your other alternate is to have Henry VI lose as in OTL but his son Edward survive instead of being killed in battle.

The problem is that on the two most obvious occassions where an exile seemed likely the exilee returned quite quickly. Any exilee is going to have a legal claim to the throne and therefore is unlikely to end up settling abroad.
(Henry of Bolingbroke - his exile during the death of his father prompted his usurpation of the throne in 1399 - he returned ostensibly only to claim his father's duchy, Edward IV fled England after the readaption in 1470 but fairly promptly returned again to claim his Duchy of York but in reality to attempt to regain the throne)

Another option might be to have George of Clarence escape abroad in 1477/8 after his big fall from grace. But again i can't see him sitting quietly in France or Burgundy after his brother's death in 1483 although his survival might prevent Richard III's usurpation.

ANother problem is that foreign monarchs would have always being willing to use pretenders like this if and when they fell out with whoever was in charge in London which meant they had to move around a bit rather than settle anywhere cos the minute the powers in Paris say came to an agreement with London they'd be offered up as the sacrficial lamb. Henry Tudor was frequently moving between the Duchy of Brittany and the Kingdom of France during his exile for example.

The male members of the House of Plantagenet gradually reduced throughout the 15th Century.

Male line descendants of Edward III

1) Descendant of the Black Prince:
Richard II (deposed presumed murdered)
2) Descendant of Lionel Duke of Clarence
NONE in the Male line (female line merged with descendants of Edmund of Langley)
3) Descendants of John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster:
Henry IV Duke of Lancaster
Henry V (died 1422) his son
Henry VI (Murd 1471) his son
Edward Prince of Wales (kd 1471) No ISSUE
Thomas Duke of Clarence (second son of Henry IV) (Died 1421) No Issue
John Duke of Bedford (third son of Henry IV) (died 1435 ) No Issue
Humphrey Duke of Gloucester (fourth son of Henry IV (died ) No Issue
4) Descendants of Edmund of Langley Duke of York
Edward 2nd Duke of York (kd Agincourt 1415)
Richard Earl of Cambridge (second son executed 1415) his son
Richard 3rd Duke of York (Killed 1460) his son
Edward IV (died 1483) his son
Edward V (presumed killed 1483) his brother
Richard Duke of Norfolk and York (presumed killed 1483)
Edmund Earl of Rutland (second son of Richard 3rd Duke of York killed 1469)
George Duke of Clarence (third son of Richard 3rd Duke of York died 1478) his son
Edward Earl of Warwick (the last male line Plantagenet at his death) (executed 1499)
Richard III (fourth son of Richard Duke of York) (kd 1485) his son
Edward of Middleham Prince of Wales (died 1484)
5) Descendants of Thomas of Woodstock Duke of Gloucester
NO Male line descendants (his son Humphrey died without issue)
 
The male members of the House of Plantagenet gradually reduced throughout the 15th Century.

Male line descendants of Edward III

3) Descendants of John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster:
Henry IV Duke of Lancaster
Henry V (died 1422) his son
Henry VI (Murd 1471) his son
Edward Prince of Wales (kd 1471) No ISSUE
Thomas Duke of Clarence (second son of Henry IV) (Died 1421) No Issue
John Duke of Bedford (third son of Henry IV) (died 1435 ) No Issue
Humphrey Duke of Gloucester (fourth son of Henry IV (died ) No Issue

You forgot:
John Beaufort, Marquess of Somerset
Henry Cardinal Beaufort No Issue
Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter No Issue

Descendants of John Beaufort
Henry Beaufort, Earl of Somerset No Issue
John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset No male issue (Henry VII's grandfather)
Thomas Beaufort, Earl of Perche No Issue
Edmund Beaufort, Duke of Somerset

Edmund Beaufort had issue of which
Henry Beaufort, Duke of Somerset had
Charles Somerset, Earl of Worcester
Ancestor of the Duke of Beaufort and of Lord Raglan
 
I deliberately excluded the Beaufort line - they were illegitimate and despite later being legitimised. There claim was remote and remained moot whilst any male plantagenet lived.
Even Henry VII never claimed the throne through his Beaufort descent (he was recognised as King by right of conquest after his victory at Bosworth) - he played up the descent from John of Gaunt but didn't legally rely on it.
Charles Somerset was undoubtedly illegitimate and had no claim to the throne.
 
Could they have gone to the New World at some point?

No, not if you're trying to keep the family significant. This just didn't happen. The Portuguese royals fleeing to Brazil in 1810 has duped a lot of people into thinking that fleeing to the colonies was a feasible idea - it wasn't, and the Portuguese example was a one-off inspired by the utter (seeming) futility of the Portuguese position given Napoleon's strength at the time and his siege of Lisbon. There was nothing for them in the New World, no way of regaining their throne, no way of having a comfortable life (for several centuries anyway) and no chance of being anyone important, especially to Europe where they would be forgotten in less than a decade. The only way they would go to the New World is if their line faded to the point where even they themselves had forgotten that they claimed the throne once, and they emigrated believing themselves to be average joes. That, or on holiday briefly.
 
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