Hitler leaves the rest of Czecho-Slovakia - for now.

WI, after their success with the Sudetenland, the Nazis decided to further Greater Germany by pressing their claims on Poland instead of invading the rump of Czecho-Slovakia? How do negotiations proceed without that example of bad faith?

I think this would require the German Foreign minister to be someone other than Ribbentrop, but who? That would mean no pact with Molotov, and German foreign policy would continue to seem more anti-Russian than anti-British.

What price would the Western Allies be willing to let Eastern Europe pay so that they could stay out of a straight fight between Hitler and Stalin?
 
WI Nazis only occupy the Susetenland plus some industrial parts of Czechoslovakia?
Once they have sufficient factories to feed their war-machine Nazis don't need to occupy any more Slovak territory.
 
WI, after their success with the Sudetenland, the Nazis decided to further Greater Germany by pressing their claims on Poland instead of invading the rump of Czecho-Slovakia? How do negotiations proceed without that example of bad faith?

I think this would require the German Foreign minister to be someone other than Ribbentrop, but who? That would mean no pact with Molotov, and German foreign policy would continue to seem more anti-Russian than anti-British.

What price would the Western Allies be willing to let Eastern Europe pay so that they could stay out of a straight fight between Hitler and Stalin?

This might work out well for Germany... if the Nazis are eventually replaced, and Germany somehow manages to avoid war. There is already an active Franco-Polish alliance, but at this point it was pretty weak, and not until the partition of Czechoslovakia in 1939 did the French and Polish parties begin to strengthen their alliance once again. France might be less inclined to help Poland since Poland made incursions into Czechoslovakia and took Zaolzie during the Sudetenland debacle. (The Czechoslovaks would certainly do nothing at this point.) If, at this point, Germany can stop, consolidate its gains and develop a decent peacetime economy without being attacked - which it'd be more likely to do without being attacked, although it'd be hard to get rid of Hitler when everything still seems to be going great as far as the politicians and generals are concerned - it'd not be seen as untrustworthy as before.

However, in every other scenario which involves war, I think the Germans would do worse, or at least not better. France would still have strong interests in protecting Poland - weak alliance or not, they wouldn't want to lose their entire sphere of influence in Eastern Europe, which they would be guaranteed to lose if they failed to help out Poland. And worse, this'd mean German hegemony of Central Europe, which France would want to prevent for sure. So it's quite likely they'd want to go to war with Germany at this point anyway. Meanwhile, without direct control of Bohemia, German war industry would be weaker, especially as far as tanks were concerned. (On the other hand, Germany might align Czechoslovakia to themselves via gunboat diplomacy anyway. With the Sudetenland lost, Czechoslovakia is indefensible and wouldn't want to risk war with Germany unless it was absolutely sure it could win easily and retake the Sudetenland. Which, with cold relations between them and Poland, is not likely, since only a Czechoslovak-Polish alliance with French backing and hopefully with Hungarian neutrality assured would possibly make the Czechs feel safe enough.)

WI Nazis only occupy the Susetenland plus some industrial parts of Czechoslovakia?
Once they have sufficient factories to feed their war-machine Nazis don't need to occupy any more Slovak territory.

I mean, that's more or less what happened IRL. The only difference with your suggestion seems to be that Slovakia would be left to fend for itself, wouldn't it? It wouldn't have much of an effect either way, and it wouldn't cost much for the Germans and the Hungarians to force Slovakia to join the Axis.
 
WI, after their success with the Sudetenland, the Nazis decided to further Greater Germany by pressing their claims on Poland instead of invading the rump of Czecho-Slovakia? How do negotiations proceed without that example of bad faith?

I think this would require the German Foreign minister to be someone other than Ribbentrop, but who? That would mean no pact with Molotov, and German foreign policy would continue to seem more anti-Russian than anti-British.

What price would the Western Allies be willing to let Eastern Europe pay so that they could stay out of a straight fight between Hitler and Stalin?

The problem is that if there is going to be a war with Poland--or at least if Germany wants to be in the strongest possible position to threaten Poland with such a war in order to induce Poland to yield to German demands--Germany will want the Skoda Works.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Works
 

trajen777

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I think gb was supportive of Danzig and felt poland was being obstinate. With no attack on chez and Poland being obstinate I don't see a war happening with a polish invasion. Not sure why no mr treaty? So
1 germany has great power meeting on Danzig
2 poland refuses to agree to german demands
3 mr treaty
4 gb offers no support to poland
5 germany attacks w Russia
6 France by itself does nothing
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