Hitler in ww1 victory

Bar Raffaeli hot, perhaps...

With her looks, he might not even immediately think she was Jewish. Too "Aryan" in appearance. Once that comes out, he might think she was an Aryan child stolen and raised by Jews and think he has to "save" her.

(Although he would probably object to her thinking she's too good for military service, that wouldn't be an issue in TTL.)

Oh gag. Twenty-something Hitler/Bar Raffaeli fan-fic.
 
He probably stays in the army. He had nothing to go back to and enjoyed being a soldier. A victorious Germany is going to need to maintain as large an army as possible.

Would he have enjoyed being in a peacetime army? I would have thought he was too lazy to put up with it and would an Austrian dreamer like him rise through the ranks of the Bavarian army? He would surely have been seen as a troublemaker by senior NCO's an officers. Without any chance of progression or fighting he would have left the army.

No doubt he would have drifted into politics and become a slightly comical figure on the fringes of mainstream German politics.

HMD
 

Gaius Julius Magnus

Gone Fishin'
Probably get discharged because he's not an actual German citizen and ges shipped back Austria. Probably tries to get back in to painting, works some oddjobs, and probably dies around the late 40's.

However if Austro-Hungary collapses asit did in the TL than maybe he could become some sort of spokesperson for the union of Germany and Austria.

As for the rest
Goering: probably stays in the air force until retirement age or some sort of businessman
Goebbels: Becomes involved maybe in either news or film making, or joins the German Communists Party (which he almost did)
Himmler: Stays in the Army for the rest of his career
Speer: What Grey Wolf said
Hess: Same as Goering or Himmler, stays in the army
 
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He leads a party dissatisfied with how the German liberals and socialists have lost the peace, and takes advantage of the stagnant German economy postwar to align with hardliners in the military to help a fascist militarist regime seize power.

Fortified with the territorial gains Germany achieved in WW1, as a crucial speaker for the Fatherland Party he ends up as the gauleiter for the Ostland that they seize from a weakened USSR.

Millions die.
 

BlondieBC

Banned
Probably get discharged because he's not an actual German citizen and ges shipped back Austria. Probably tries to get back in to painting, works some oddjobs, and probably dies around the late 40's.

With the demographic issues, I don't see Germany deporting German speakers. There are no German refugees from lost lands and 1/6 of working age men are dead and about an equal number crippled. Hitler may be discharged from the Army and he may not like his job, but he can likely stay in Germany if he wants to.
 
Didn't service in the Bavarian army guarantee him German citizenship? Either that or there was duality in pan-Germanic citizenship, since he was employed post-1918 by the army in OTL, and obviously he was able to stand for election.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
Reroll the dice, and Hitler has perhaps a 50% chance of getting killed in the war.


If Germany won in the East and gets a truce in the West, there will still be a great deal of fighting to keep on top of in the East, and Hitler probably heads along. He thus finds himself in places like Poland or the Ukraine.


A devout German nationalist, I see Hitler being a part of Germany's authority in these regions. He might remain a soldier, or perhaps become a bureaucrat, but he still holds extreme views. Far from alone in this, though, I think he probably marries a sister or daughter of someone in those authorities.


His drive to seek power now probably turns into a drive to deliver Germany their slice of the pie, and he is probably disliked or despised by the people of Germany's vassal regime. Said regime is likely to be fragile, though, and I see Hitler getting gunned down by vengeful Poles, Ukrainians or whomever else Hitler has been playing Baron with.


Unlike OTL, Hitler has children and these probably move back to Germany proper along with their remarried mother. The Hitler name thus lives on, and Germany might someday see one of Adolf's children or grandchildren move into the public eye.
 
I think most of the top Nazis probably go into middle ranking jobs, remaining obscure to the public at large. The Nazi Party itself (or whatever it's TTL organisation is called) will be an extremest party little remembered today.

It's possible I'm wrong on that-I guess it could depend on when/how the Central Powers "win" ITTL.
 
I think most of the top Nazis probably go into middle ranking jobs, remaining obscure to the public at large. The Nazi Party itself (or whatever it's TTL organisation is called) will be an extremest party little remembered today.

It's possible I'm wrong on that-I guess it could depend on when/how the Central Powers "win" ITTL.

Nah you've hit the nail on the head
 
I remember something off a HOI story:

...became a German citizen after the war and climbed through the ranks. He ended up as a Major, leading a battalion of the 16th Royal Bavarian Reserve Regiment until the amalgamation into the Reichsheer. He was an infamous disciplinarian, known among the enlisted men as “Hauptmann Satan” when still a company commander. I remember he did well in an exercise in the 20s, he had a remarkably good grasp of small unit tactics… alas, he seemed to go slightly unhinged at the slightest mention of Jews, so much so that he became an embarrassment. He was famous for knowing the minutiae of every weapon in the Heer arsenal though, so upon amalgamation he was transferred to the Materialamt des Heeres as an ordnance expert, and has apparently done remarkably well…

He actually becomes a support person for the good guys of the story, pushing for biltzkerg style warfare by High Command, desgining TTL equiverlent of the Panzer III with a 50mm gun, and the symbols for the new German Army, including the Nazi symbol for the Luftwaffe's planes.
 
Didn't service in the Bavarian army guarantee him German citizenship? Either that or there was duality in pan-Germanic citizenship, since he was employed post-1918 by the army in OTL, and obviously he was able to stand for election.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

No it did not.

OTL he had to be given a minor post in the civil service (can't remember which) to get german citizenship.
 
Didn't service in the Bavarian army guarantee him German citizenship? Either that or there was duality in pan-Germanic citizenship, since he was employed post-1918 by the army in OTL, and obviously he was able to stand for election.

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Richter von Manthofen is right.

- Serving in the Bavarian army as a volunteer didn´t result in Bavarian (and therefore German) citizenship.
- There was never any "duality in pan-Germanic citizenship".

Hitler after the war was sort of employed by the army in an unofficial, undercover role. For that you can employ anyone you like regardless of citizenship.

And Hitler wasn´t able to "stand for elections" in Germany during the 1920s himself. If I remember correctly Bavaria tried to deport him to Austria after the 1923 putsch attempt. Austria refused to let him enter.
So for several years after that he was a stateless person. Several attempts after 1925 (6 or 7 attempts) by Nazi sympathizers (in different German states) to naturalize him failed. Until finally and unfortunately an attempt in - I think - Braunschweig 1932 succeeded. Only after that could he stand for elections.
 
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