Hitler escapes to Japan via U-Boat

Even if Hitler arrives in Japan in May, 1945 with full plans for the Me-162, there is no way the Japanese can make those sorts of numbers by July, 1945. If they do thanks to Skippy the ASB it would be a one time thing. Also by July, 1945 most of the raids were nighttime and Komet intercepts were daylight only.
 
Even if Hitler arrives in Japan in May, 1945 with full plans for the Me-162, there is no way the Japanese can make those sorts of numbers by July, 1945. If they do thanks to Skippy the ASB it would be a one time thing. Also by July, 1945 most of the raids were nighttime and Komet intercepts were daylight only.
The Japanese got the plans to the Me-163 IOTL before May 1945 and built a few before the end of the war. Here they also got a little help from Lippish, maybe its not enough to make that big a difference but then again maybe it was.
 
Whether or not Lippisch is in Japan makes almost no difference at all. The issue is how does Japan build them absent many of the necessary raw materials in quantity, the production lines set to produce the fuel, and so forth. These are tricky beasts and the average kamikaze pilot simply does not have the skills to fly them, attack a bomber, and then land it. OTL in Germany they were only used in daylight attacks, and even the Germans (who were in much better shape industrially than Japan) produced a limited number of them. The Wiki article on the Me-163 notes that some components of the rocket system could not be produced by the Japanese. QED.
 

hammo1j

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Touche!

My typo of 1944 and yours of the Me 162. (As Elegantly pointed out by cortz#9 (is that anything to do with Lennon btw?))

The Japanese flew an Me262 copy in August 1945 without any assistance from the Nazis except a blueprint which got delivered by U Boat from Kiel Harbour so lets not talk ASB just yet, Gentlemen.
 

hammo1j

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The Mikado had requested his presence.

To sway a philistine like Adolf#1 the perfume had to be truly divine. Like an assassin on Mary Jane the Fuhrer was directed into the innermost of sanctums.

The citation read that "He had stopped the Great Bulls (B29s) which hitherto had been considered impossible by a mortal."

The Emperor of Japan was raised upon a throne above him. Involuntarily the Scourge of the West realised that he was bowing.

"We are of the same substance, but mine has become weak." The Emperor spoke excellent German.

"The will is all I have." Replied the Fuhrer.

"From a no-one or nobody who lived on the street to nearly conquer the world: this is a tremendous will. This I could do in the Shogun, but many re-incarnations have made me weak."

Even for an Homeopathic medicine believer this seemed far fetched, but Adolph Hitler never revealed his hand.

"Purity of spirit is all that is the essence of purity. We are the fire within our soul."

Hitler had not read this from a 2017 self help book or been to a Tony Robbins seminar. He was the Bullshitter not the Bullshitted. If the Mikado wanted to believe this mystic crap that he was the saviour of Japan he was happy to play along with it.

Hitler's mind had even forgotten that he was lying. "Give your forces to God's chosen, and I will prevail."
 
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hammo1j

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The US occupational forces were taking no chances on Hitler escaping justice.

The cell was all white to highlight any foreign substances that might be introduced. Four guards sat at each corner of the cell, unarmed, but each an expert in Martial Arts. The danger was that any gun could be used to eliminate the highest of high value prisoners.

In leg irons, the "Fuhrer" was forced to take a dump in public, and the potty containing the stool was immediately carted off for forensic evidence, just in case Hitler had thought to conceal something in his rectum that would allow him to cheat justice.

"This is inhumane!" Adolf#2 complained to his captors. "The Geneva Convention does not permit this."

The interrogator thrust a newspaper in front of him: The New York Times Headline - HITLER TO HANG HIGH FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

"Where was your humanity when you precipitated a war that left 50 Million Dead?"

Hitler#2 looked at the WASP Officer grinning from ear to ear in the subhead of the Times. HERO TOOK THE FEUHRER DOWN AT GREAT RISK TO HIS OWN LIFE.

Apparently through his sheer initiative members of the elite SS unit guarding Hitler had been disabled and the Feuhrer [sic] taken prisoner.

"Hats off to him," thought the dejected impersonator of the leader of the 3rd Reich, "that opportunist c--t is going to dine out on that forever..."

In fact it wasn't forever. In 2018 using a photoimaging electron scanning technique on film that had not developed properly, the Discovery channel proved the claim of the Unit that actually pulled the "Fake Fuhrer" from the woods...
 
It would probably be cancelled out by someone in poor health being in a cramped submarine. A milch cow is going to be easily located and sunk, even if a Type XXI wouldn't be.

All the way to Japan is dubious. If he goes to Spain, Franco almost certainly just gives him up to the Allies (Mountains or not, it's not like the post-civil war Spanish Army could stop an invasion).

Would they really invade a country at peace just to get a single man?

What if he escaped to Argentina, would they invade it too just for one man?

I find it hard to believe.
 
No U-boat could make it from Germany to Japan (around the Cape of Good Hope/Indian Ocean/South China Sea/Pacific) without refueling it is well over 15,000 nm. Using 15,000 nm and expecting an average SOA (speed of advance) of 10 kts (more on surface, less on snorkel/battery when submerged) you are looking at at least 65-70 days to get to Japan from Germany meaning Hitler arrives in Japan around July 1, 1945. At that point absolutely nothing that could come from Germany to Japan on one or even several U-boats can make the slightest bit of difference.

A scenario where Hitler tries to escape to arrive incognito in Argentina, Paraguay etc makes some sort of sense. Going to Japan, which is going to be defeated sooner rather than later makes no sense. Furthermore German/Japanese cooperation during WWII was minimal at best.
The type XXI had a maximum range of 15,500nm surfaced and on diesels. On batteries she had another 300nm each time before recharging, which was done while advancing on diesels. Switching between the two and going for maximum economical steaming, she can reach Japan (Just!), although refueling would be handy! Maybe another XXI hastely converted into a milch cow for the primary? Convert bow and stern TT rooms for instance? Or one of the crew quarters and take minimal crew?
 

hammo1j

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Dateline 1945 August 10th: Saboru Jones sat by his machine near Hiroshima harbour as the light died. He was involved with the first defence of Kobe and had been one of the few to land his Me163 on the skid after having not acquired a B29 Target. Then the radar warning went off: Scramble!

He could not see anything, then he saw the red hot exhaust glow of a small formation. The tail gunners began to shoot giving him further orientation on where the target lay. He aimed for the centre of the formation.

The 163 struck the Wingroot of the giant B29 tearing it clean off. Saboru's last sight was the ripped cabling.

As the one winged B29 span like a sycamore seed, Colonel Paul Tibbetts just felt a regret that all his training was never going to be successful, before he was blacked out by the centrifugal force.

At 1500ft the Barometric fuse attached to Little Boy was triggered and his carefully organised biological organism was converted to a mass of swirling plasma.
 

hammo1j

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Hitler had been assigned to build a defensive wall like the Atlantic wall in Southern Japan. His assignment had been interrupted by a massive blast.

He surveyed the flattened trees.

"Heisenburg, Please tell me if this is a Nuclear Bomb."

"I am uncertain, Mein Fuhrer."

Hitler took it a sharp intake of breath. When it came to Nuclear Weapons his only ace in the hole was this chump, Hiesenberg, but the Allies had such luminaries as Einstein, Oppenheimer and Max Planck. Really he would have to check with HR where the recruitment policy had gone wrong.

Otto Skorzeny piped up. He was dating a non Aryan, honary Aryan, translator whose parents had come to Germany in the 1920s. She had translated the Fuhrer's speech to industrial workers who were building centimetric radar sets for the Me163s. They all seemed enthusiastically able to embrace the concept of self sacrifice in a way the inferior German Volk could not. Adolph could not stop himself from feeling that she was hot-t-t.

"I cannot see the Allies dropping this kind of bomb on women and children."

Hitler turned on him, his only protection against the last chance saloon.

"Do you not think the Amis are incapable of this carnage. They preach limited warfare but are the first to turn it against Kinder when their congress turns a blind eye."

"Then the Americans missed with this weapon?"

"Yes, and they will not miss again." Replied Hitler. "Where is U3245?"

"Nagasaki, Mein Fuhrer!"
 

hammo1j

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He revved the Wrights at the beginning of Saipan runway.

"Motherfucking, Magnesium piles of shit. Don't fail me now." The pilots mind filled with the bright light of magnesium burning white hot in a chemistry lesson long ago.

The B29 gathered speed on the volcanic runway and lifted into to the evening air...


"31,550, we aint gonna make 33,000ft skipper."

Everyone on the plane was sweating like rapist gangbangers bought before a Christian Judge.

Then the pilot used an old trick: slamming the flaps down gave him extra lift."

"Time. Time. Time!"

"3 minutes to bomb drop"

He put on his goggles and the rest of the crew faced the interior of the plane to escape the bright of the Sun that one plane in the formation was about to supply.

Even through the darkened glass, he could see 7, 8 maybe 10 planes go down to the Me163 suiciders. He prayed it wasn't the one with the 'Bomb'/

"Fucking A" Shouted the rear gunner. Then the blast wave lifted them like a waffle. The atomic bomber was to their rear.

Down below, Skorzeny signalled the U boat from the Nagasaki coast with an Aldiss lamp.

The white light was acknowledged in Hitler's mind as mere data. He had no time to compute before the blast threw him from the clifftop into the foaming waters below.

The dashed remains were never found, probably eaten by sharks. Skorzeny and his lover must have perished too, because there is no record in history hence.

Epilog:

The 'Fake Fuhrer' was found guilty of crimes against humanity. He was hung before three witnesses in the Winter of '46.

Later studies exonerated him of the heinous accusations and in 1960 he was granted a full pardon, as the the extraordinary events of Hitlers Escape to Japan by U-Boat became known.

T H E E N D

Coming soon... My New Timeline: "The HITLER TWINS!"
 
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