Hitler Captured by the Russians

*rolls eyes at everyone answering "he'd die"* GEE, YOU THINK?



Agreed. TERRIBLE decision on those soldiers part. I would expect the fear of such repercussions would be enough to keep him alive. Alive enough, anyway. Stalin wouldn't mind some broken ribs.....or a missing finger.....castration might fall into "denying Stalin his prize" territory though. Not too many blows to the face, comrade. A little game of Whisper Down The Lane develops where each unit gets a few careful but very satisfying licks in before transferring him.

I absolutely believe he gets put in the finest bulletproof glass cage Soviet engineers can produce (with enough gaps to allow oxygen and non-lethal vegetable projectiles inside) to become part of the Moscow Victory Parade though. Try to imagine Cersei's Walk of Shame, but if she had murdered a family member of everyone in King's Landing. Phew.

After that epic catharsis, who cares what happens to him, right? Would definitely be rumors of Soviet super-science keeping him alive for torture to the present day tho lol.

The gulag will do just fine to make him suffer, though, with his medical conditions, he'd probably expire quite fast in the Russian wilderness.

As for the reaction from the West, I'd imagine a few urging Stalin to prosecute him at Nuremberg and give him a fair(er) trial, but they probably won't complain much if he gets sent to a show trial in Moscow anyway. In fact, there's more than enough damning evidence against him it'll be a sick joke to actually falsify any (though exaggerations of his crimes are expected).
 
I guess that holding a trial in any area that Soviet controlls means no western press for the obvious reason that Stalin and Hitler once had a pact.
 
Probably end up tortured to death like his nephew and its reported as a heart attack if the Russians even bother to say they got him publicly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Hitler

This article is poorly sourced. Butrya Prison was not a military prison, and never has been. It was under control of the NKVD (Ministry of Internal Affairs) throughout this period, and was employed as a pretrial detention center. It was turned over to the Ministry of State Security in 1950.
 

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This article is poorly sourced. Butrya Prison was not a military prison, and never has been. It was under control of the NKVD (Ministry of Internal Affairs) throughout this period, and was employed as a pretrial detention center. It was turned over to the Ministry of State Security in 1950.
I'm assuming they meant it a prison for important military personnel, which the NKVD would certainly hold and interrogate roughly.
 
Two other questions.

First, would Stalin want to see Hitler, face to face, if for no other reason than to let him know that he won? "I got you and now you will suffer as you have made my people suffer."

Second, who the hell is going to defend him and what would his defense look like?
 
I doubt he would be that lucky, Stalin would make sure it took him a LONG time to die! I could see the Russians torturing him, and then let him heal up so they can torture him again. A firing squad would be too quick a death. The Russians would want to make sure he really suffered.

They'll just shoot accurately enough to grievously wound him then.
 
Let us assume that the OPs premise that Hitler is capture is possible.

His capture and subsequent death (either by execution or by other means) would significantly alter our view of Hitler.

In OTL Hitler is view as not only a psychopath, but a coward who killed himself in the dying days of the Reich.

In my view, if his death is not by his own hand, he is easier to victimize.

Let us be glad that at the very least Hitler was not stoic in his death.
 
Two other questions.

First, would Stalin want to see Hitler, face to face, if for no other reason than to let him know that he won? "I got you and now you will suffer as you have made my people suffer."

Second, who the hell is going to defend him and what would his defense look like?

There is no indication that Stalin ever witnessed an execution of any person after rising to power in the Soviet Union (*) . Reading reports of executions and hearing about them from witnesses seemed to be sufficient for him. If he passed on witnessing the killing of his bitter foes in the Soviet Union, I doubt he would be interested in being present at Hitler's death.

(*) Stalin did see a man hanged in his youth.

As for the second question, defense attorneys in the Soviet era (in public trials only) weren't actually allowed to defend their clients. They were expected to admit that their client was guilty, guilty, guilty, and deserved whatever punishment he received. Defendants in show trials publicly admitted their guilt or else (the or else usually involved savage torture and threats of reprisals against loved ones). Any defense attorney who tried to argue that his client was innocent and was being railroaded would have been himself arrested as an enemy of the people. NO ONE is going to be allowed to present a defense of Hitler.
 
*rolls eyes at everyone answering "he'd die"* GEE, YOU THINK?



Agreed. TERRIBLE decision on those soldiers part. I would expect the fear of such repercussions would be enough to keep him alive. Alive enough, anyway. Stalin wouldn't mind some broken ribs.....or a missing finger.....castration might fall into "denying Stalin his prize" territory though. Not too many blows to the face, comrade. A little game of Whisper Down The Lane develops where each unit gets a few careful but very satisfying licks in before transferring him.

I absolutely believe he gets put in the finest bulletproof glass cage Soviet engineers can produce (with enough gaps to allow oxygen and non-lethal vegetable projectiles inside) to become part of the Moscow Victory Parade though. Try to imagine Cersei's Walk of Shame, but if she had murdered a family member of everyone in King's Landing. Phew.

After that epic catharsis, who cares what happens to him, right? Would definitely be rumors of Soviet super-science keeping him alive for torture to the present day tho lol.

Agreed, I doubt this would make that much of a difference to the Wallies. Stalin could show movies of Hitler's gruesome tortures and no one would care.
 
Agreed, I doubt this would make that much of a difference to the Wallies. Stalin could show movies of Hitler's gruesome tortures and no one would care.

Certainly not after having witnessed things like Treblinka. I recall Churchill at one point in '45 recommending that if they ever wind up catching Hitler, they just take him out back and shoot him.
 
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As for the second question, defense attorneys in the Soviet era (in public trials only) weren't actually allowed to defend their clients. They were expected to admit that their client was guilty, guilty, guilty, and deserved whatever punishment he received. Defendants in show trials publicly admitted their guilt or else (the or else usually involved savage torture and threats of reprisals against loved ones). Any defense attorney who tried to argue that his client was innocent and was being railroaded would have been himself arrested as an enemy of the people. NO ONE is going to be allowed to present a defense of Hitler.

Agreed, the "defense attorney" will most likely be at least as bloodthirsty in his rhetoric against Hitler as the prosecutor. The fact that it is Hitler means it is just less staged than normal as he would be as pissed as everyone else of Hitler's crimes.
 
if Stalin gets a hold of Hitler, he is not turning him over for a trial. He will become Stalin's new play toy. He will make Hitler beg for death and then laugh when he does. Stalin will have him tortured but kept alive for as long as possible.
 
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