Hitler assassinated - a focus on Axis allies

raharris1973

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Yep there's always alot of talk about the July plot, but here's one thing I was wondering. If either the July 1944 briefcase bomb or the March 1943 cognac bottle bomb had killed Hitler, what were the chances of all Germany's alliances in Europe unravelling in a month or two? Could this create enough of reinforcing spiral of bad news so that the war ends in the following 3-6 months, in either case?
 
Depends on who else dies with Hitler.
Could be you just get some one more competent taking over.

The early 43 one was at a time when fat man would not be accepted by the Field Marshal's as he just lost the 6th Army saying he could supply them from the air.

The genocidal chicken farmer was never a choice they would accept. So, I think you have a high chance of a figurehead being picked to be the face of a military run government. The SS end up getting purged and the Waffen SS merged fully into the regular Army.

As for the rest I think in this time line they will send out peacefeelers to both the Western Allies and Stalin. I think Stalin is the much more likely of the group to come to the table. But, if he does it will be to buy time for himself, rebuld his forces and wait until the Western Allies and Germany have exausted themselves before re-entering the war.
 

raharris1973

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In the July 1944- Is there really any time to benefit from this?

"Could be you just get some one more competent taking over."

Don't all the minor axis allies defect sooner seeing Hitler dead?

Are the Germans equally willing as in OTL to occupy their defecting allies (like Hungary) and crush local uprisers in places like Slovakia and Warsaw, or to they withdraw to the west of such rebels and allies that are trying to kick them out?

As for the March 1943 -

Can events in Germany be seen in Italy as a signal to overthrow Mussolini? Sure, Rome hasn't been bombed and Sicily hasn't been taken but things look awful for the Axis in Tunis and worse in Stalingrad, both places in which alot of Italians are being lost.


Even if not, could Mussolini become interested in getting out of the war. Regardless of what you think of the Duce or Fuhrer's competence or incompetence, isn't the most likely outcome in the event either or both are removed is making German-Italian cooperation worse, with each thinking about side deals?
 
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