Historia Mundi

Alrighty guys, I'm asking for fan input. In our history, the land of the Romans eventually was known as Romania (not till the middle ages, of course).

Personally, I don't like this. I immediately think of modern Romania, and it just ruins the visual for me. So, I want to come up with some alternative name for the country. It wouldn't necessarily be the actual name of a government, but maybe it could be included. Don't think of any particular geography when coming up with this. This could be a Roman state comprising of the entirety of OTL's empire, or something just around Italy, or even Denmark, for all I care.

Romana's one possibility. Or, to take it in a different direction, instead of being considered the land of the Romans, its considered the land of the Latins (which would be good if I were to tie in my linguo-racism idea from the racism thread).

That gives us Latinia/Latina/Latinium/Latinum (as opposed to the region of Latium in Italy).
 
I have to reread another time this superb ATL for having a whole vision, for the moment the only advise that I have is Pleaassse continue with it:cool::):

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Tacitus, Suetonius (the two happy historians in Elysean fields) and Iñaki:

-Dominus ra ra ra, two thumbs up for Dominus and Historia Mundi.



It is no doubt Dominus that Clio has touched your mind with her essence to make this great TL (hmm, today I feel a poet:D)
 
Auch! I forget to answer the question.

As I say before I need to read another time the TL, because Res Publica has been transformed in some kind of Dominate (Dominus), but I was thinking if I remember latin school times: Imperium Romani -Roman Empire- but also Imperium romanorum -Empire of the Romans- is it possible Romanoria instead Romania? while Romania I suppose could be originated in Romani, Romanoria seems more originated in the populus, in the roman people, a name that will indicate that more than the lands, are the people that forms the empire the real core of the Empire.

So if is possible I say Romanoria.
 
Auch! I forget to answer the question.

As I say before I need to read another time the TL, because Res Publica has been transformed in some kind of Dominate (Dominus), but I was thinking if I remember latin school times: Imperium Romani -Roman Empire- but also Imperium romanorum -Empire of the Romans- is it possible Romanoria instead Romania? while Romania I suppose could be originated in Romani, Romanoria seems more originated in the populus, in the roman people, a name that will indicate that more than the lands, are the people that forms the empire the real core of the Empire.

So if is possible I say Romanoria.

Hmmmm, Romanoria. Interesting. I think I'm gonna make a poll on it.
 
When's an update on this? It's been a while since I read, but I have to say, I like the updates.

The only thing I want to know is, what's the green territory in the country known as Mespotamia called.
And I await the arrival of Iskander, promised since the 1st version of your Roman TL,(though the your first two versions, were, in all reality, completely different from this one.
 
When's an update on this? It's been a while since I read, but I have to say, I like the updates.

The only thing I want to know is, what's the green territory in the country known as Mespotamia called.
And I await the arrival of Iskander, promised since the 1st version of your Roman TL,(though the your first two versions, were, in all reality, completely different from this one.

Thank you much. The green empire is the Eastern Roman Basileate.

Iskander's coming in this update, not a huge impact during this one, but he will make his presence known.

I'll be posting something soon. But, you see, this is move in weekend, so there's soo many good looking freshman girls just coming to school...
 
Just as an FYI, I realized that this thread is longer than the original Roman Timeline. It also covers a longer period of time (but thats been true for awhile).
 
1126 AUC
- Duan Di succeeds Tai Di as Emperor of Seres.

1127 AUC
- Heraclius Kavadh succeeds Heraclius Orodes as Shah of Persia. [213]

1128 AUC

1129 AUC
- The Noregians have taken the entirety of the Gutonic territories in Scandia. [214]

1130 AUC (AD 377)
- Isidoros, the chief Strategos of the Roman Basileate, becomes the de facto ruler of the Basileate. [215]

1131 AUC
- Mu Di succeeds Duan Di as Emperor of Seres. [216]
- Decimus Gavius Eutherius succeeds Gnaeus Gavius Trifer as Dominus of Rome. [217]

1132 AUC

1133 AUC
- Shangjian Di succeeds Duan Di as Emperor of Seres.
- Dao Di succeeds Shagjian Di as Emperor of Seres.

1134 AUC
- Eskander begins his ministry. [218]

1135 AUC
- The King of Britannia begins campaigning in Caledonia.
- Chun Di succeeds Dao Di as Empress of Seres. [219]

1136 AUC
- The Roman Basileate invades Persia. [220]

1137 AUC
- Ovidius Virginius, a governor in northeastern Gallia, launches rebellion against Eutherius.

1138 AUC
- The King of Media converts to the Eskandrian Sect. [221]

1139 AUC

1140 AUC (AD 387)
- Eskander ascends to the Median throne.
- Ovidius declares himself King of Gallia. [222]
- The Caledonian campaign ends, pushing the border of Britannia much further north.
- Sidonius Monicus, a Roman commander in Africa, rebels against Eutherius.

1141 AUC
- Isidoros succeeds Zenobios as Basileus of the Roman Basileate.
- Eskander declares Media independent of the Eastern Roman Basileate. [223]

1142 AUC
- Isidoros captures the Median capital, Eskander flees to Armenia.
- The Noregians begin establishing several footholds along the coastline of the Gutonic kingdom.
- Serean nobles invite the Bod Emperor to rule Seres. [224]

1143 AUC
- Eskander liberates the Median capital from Eastern Roman forces. [225]
- Eutherius concludes a peace with Ovidius, allowing him to rule his territory on behalf of Rome..

1144 AUC
- Sidonius' rebellion is crushed. [226]

1145 AUC
- Median forces begin invading the territory of the Eastern Roman Basileate.

1146 AUC
- Eskander leaves Media to preach to the Arabs. [227]
- Marcus Gavius Ruso succeeds Decimus Gavius Eutherius as Dominus of Rome.

1147 AUC
- The Noregians declare the kingdom of Germania Magna, under their king, Domar Ragnarson. [228]

1148 AUC
- Wu Di succeeds Chun Di as Emperor of Seres, ending the Serean civil war. [229]

1149 AUC
- Gaius Octavius Valerianus succeeds Marcus Gavius Ruso as Dominus of Rome. [230]

1150 AUC (AD 397)
- Eskander is declared king of Arabia and begins a campaign against the Eastern Roman holdings in Arabia.

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[213] Kavadh is quite young, only three years old, and the Persian court soon turns to squabbling over the regency, with four seperate factions fighting over influence.
[214] Scandinavia.
[215] Zenobios had recently been suffering from some severe psychological issues and had secluded himself away from the day-to-day governing of the state. Isidoros, while a capable administrator and skilled general, was very prejudiced against the Persians, and sought to undermine the alliance between the Persians and Eastern Romans, while allying with the Roman Dominate. These policies are unpopular on many levels of society. There are many of Persian decent in the Roman Basileate, and many Greeks in Persia. The two states prosper greatly from the peaceful relations and trade and share a substantial border. Isidoros' basic policy is to support the weaker factions in the Persian power struggle at the time, hindering their efforts at stabilizing the country.
[216] Mu Di's mother, Empress Dowager Jia, is the power behind the throne during Mu's reign, as well as the reigns of his two successors, his brothers.
[217] Much to the surprise of many, Trifer had managed to stabilize Rome to some degree, enough that the Senate supported the ascension of his son to the Dominate.
[218] Eskander's father is a Zoroastrian Mede of some note, while his mother is a Christian Greek. A quick learner, he studied a great many subjects as a youth and could speak both Greek and Persian fluently by the time he was five, and learned several other languages over the course of his life. Eskander, at the age of thirty, announced to his friends and family that he had received a message from God, asking him to preach to the people. His message will be a syncretic form of Zoroastrianism and Christianity that calls for religious leaders to play an active role in government.
[219] Chun Di, the former Empress Dowager Jia, is the first woman to rule Seres openly as Emperor. Many established families are resentful of her rule, even if she is otherwise an effective ruler. Evntually, this dissent will boil over into rebellion.
[220] Isidoros' initial handling of getting the population to support the war left much to be desired. There were riots in many cities of the basileate. Meanwhile, Armenia ended its alliance with the Eastern Romans.
[221] The Median king is his most noteworthy convert to this point. Eskander subsequently marries his daughter, and becomes his heir. His sect gains a great deal of momentum from this point on.
[222] Ovidius' rebellion has had mixed success to this point. His attempts at invading Italia have been thwarted, but he has also been able to defeat the forces Eutherius sends to Gallia. Deciding that taking Rome is impossible and that, if he does, he will likely be overthrown himself, he settles for Gallia.
[223] The King of Media had been a client of the Basileus for some time now. When Eskander ends this relationship, Isidoros is understandably upset and quickly launches an invasion to restore a 'proper' king on the throne.
[224] These nobles decide that a foreign Emperor is preferable to being ruled by a woman.
[225] With the large number of converts, as well as his good governance, Eskander was very popular in Media, leading to several uprisings during the short time Isidoros held the territory. Unable to afford maintaining both the war with Persia and holding Media, he chooses to withdraw most of his forces in Media, allowing Eskander to easily retake his kingdom.
[226] Eutherius was a skilled naval strategist, which allowed him to prosecute his campaign against Sidonius much more effectively than he could the campaign against Ovidius. When Sidonius' rebellion collapsed, many of his supporters fled to the desert Berber tribes for protection from Dominate forces.
[227] Eskander leaves the government in the capable hands of his brother while he's gone. During his mission, he impresses many of the Bedouin tribes of the deep desert with his bravery and piety. He quickly wins over tribe after tribe to his cause. Many of the people in the cities of the Eastern Roman client states in Arabia also are swayed by his message. With each passing day, his converts - and thus, allies - grow in number.
[228] This kingdom of Greater Germania is declared to gain more support among the other germanic tribes now in their territory. They are incorporated into the government, with a council of various tribes having significant power, and an elective monarchy.
[229] Wu, the Emperor of Bod, founds the Shu Dynasty, named for the region of Seres where he had the most support. While the rebels have succeeded, Seres is impoverished due to the war, and several outlying kingdoms have broken away, including Koryu, which had been ruled as part of Seres. Further more, the son of Empress Chun, Liu Jian, was still at large, and began a rebellion almost immediately.
[230] Valerianus is a respected Senator, favored by both the military and Senate.
 
Oh, what? A map, too?

Matt and other fans of Eskander should be happy.

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Great update. Eskander is the awesomeness :D

Thank ya sir. Yeah, Eskander's gonna do pretty well within the span of the next update. So will Germania, for that matter. Haven't decided exactly what I want them doing. On the one hand, they could go east, and be the analogue to Russia, expanding to the Urals and across to the steppes. On the other hand, they could go west, mucking around in Britain, colonizing Iceland, Greenland, and maybe America.

Doing both would be.. difficult.
 
Very interesting! I look forward to more!

Thank you sir. I look forward to writing more.

I really love your map especially the colors on it.

It'd be nice though for a bit more color(s) and a key to go with it since its a global map and details on the map are a bit lacking.

Well, I'm hesitant to actually label the map, as it makes editing it harder. And colors really only work for the major powers. I'll have to figure something out, though
 
Is there any chance of an update of this? Pllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaassssseeeeeee?
 
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