Highly underused PODs with great potential

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by vultan, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. vultan Defying Gravity

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    What are some potentially potent historical PODs that no one really looks at, but are plausible and could create a really cool/different timeline?
    French victory in the French and Indian War is a good one.
    Any others?
     
  2. HistIdiot Member

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    Maybe the Spanish hanging on to Louisiana? Or no Louisiana Purchase?
     
  3. GreatScottMarty Stuck with Laurens-Burr

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    Mexicans win Mexican-American War
     
  4. TheNordicBrit Well-Known Member

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    No Haitian Revolt.
     
  5. GreatScottMarty Stuck with Laurens-Burr

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    Stephen Douglas wins Presidency in 1860
    Henry Clay becomes President anytime between 1836 and 1850
    William Harrison serves a full term
    John Jay 2nd Pres. not John Adams
    John Jay first VP not John Adams
    James Garfield not assinated or survives attempt

    those are a few, I haven't seen done
     
  6. corditeman Relatively Sane and Unique

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    Britain too far offshore for invasion by William the Bastard (Normans), the French and inconveniently so for Hitler...
     
  7. Korporal Nooij Well-Known Member

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    That's an ASB PoD, and it would be sure to butterfly away at least Napoleon and Hitler.
     
  8. counterblitzkrieg Me

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    The Ottomans won the Battle of Vienna (if you're into Ottoman-wank that is ;))
     
  9. MNP Dark Souls 3!

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    I don't think I've seen much discussion of this. I've started doing preliminary research on this subject:

    What if La Pucelle succeeds in escaping from the English and returns to France?
     
  10. SJK Well-Known Member

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    What if the Parthians tried to push the Romans further back after Carrhae?
     
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  11. Desmond Hume Amerikansky tovarishch

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    1. Warren Harding gets his way and Irvine Lenroot becomes his running mate, with Lenroot then becoming President assuming Harding dies on schedule.

    2. McKinley chooses anyone other than TR as his running mate in 1900.

    3. Franz Josef is assassinated in 1853 instead of being saved by a high collar, an Irishman, and a butcher.
     
  12. Patukov I like liking stuff.

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    No times of troubles in Russia
     
  13. corditeman Relatively Sane and Unique

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    I had this idea for a TL...

    Not sure if a change in geology about 4 million years ago is an ASB - we would need that for the British Isles to be so far offshore. I decided that the Romans might have got there (if Channel Islands strung out in a line) and probably the Anglian and Saxon invasions (with better ships) whilst the Vikings would sail anywhere.

    Napoleon and Hitler would NOT be butterflied away, but major British involvement with Europe would be much reduced. (Mind you, is that such a bad idea :p?)

    I'm jotting down a few notes and this thread looked interesting. When I get the Four Islands in some kind of shape, do I put it here or the ASB?

    Answers on a postage stamp, please.
     
  14. SJK Well-Known Member

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    Oh, mixed the names up.

    Anyhow, the Parthians could send raiding parties to Roman-held areas nearby, but would that be a stretch for their logistics?
     
  15. Workable Goblin Spacepony Gone Fishin'

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    @corditeman: Geographical/geological changes go in ASB.

    As for myself...what about the Empress Dowager Cixi dying considerably earlier than OTL? IOTL, she served as a considerable block on the ability of the late Qing to reform and modernize China, even going so far as to overthrow the Guangxu Emperor when he instituted a series of reforms. She bears a lot of responsibility for the later ills China has suffered. So, what if, before she could do all that (say, sometime in the 1870s or 1880s) she died somehow?
     
  16. Basileus Giorgios Augustus and Autocrat

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    No Plague of 542, or of 1347.

    First Crusade defeated.
     
  17. I Blame Communism Banned

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    Like, anything to do with the Deluge and Northern Wars. At all.
     
  18. corditeman Relatively Sane and Unique

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    Thanks, truth is life.

    What about the Exeter ramming the Graf Spee, or the Graf Spee sinking Exeter, Ajax and Achilles ?
     
  19. Penelope Well-Known Member

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    Mashed Pickle wrote an excellent timeline about this last year, but he hasn't gotten around to finishing it.
     
  20. Susano Banned

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    Well, I must admit, even though those are in my "favourite era", I do avoid them because they can be so damn complicated. Same with the 30 Years War...