Bulgar civil war
751-753

Constantine had returned from his victorious campaign, due to his victories, Constantine began to make some reforms. Constantine victories inspired fierce loyalty among the troops.

This allowed the emperor to create elite corps called tagmata, serving as a loyal force of the central regions of the empire ,and to serve as counter to the thematic levies, which has a disturbing tendency to revolt, against central authority.

News reached him from the north , the last ruler of the dulos clan, khan Sevar died, plunging the burglars into civil war, this opportune for the Slavs to attack the Bulgars.

When they did, factional rivalries began to undermine central bulgar authorities in the worst possible moment. Among the factions, the biggest and most important division of the Bulgars and that was the pro-Roman and anti-roman faction.

The leader of the Pro-Roman faction. Sent a letter to Constantine, and asked him to send an army to help him.

Constantine knew that he could not lose one of his biggest buffer states, and sent an army to help khan Kormisosh hold to his throne. And keep the pro Roman faction on the throne.

The Roman army won against some Bulgarian rebels, and stayed there, but then they stayed there for 2 months and then left to receive their payment.

The bulgars rebelled when the romans left, and the khan was killed by the mob.


Due to this The Khanate fell into a long political crisis during which the young country was on the verge of destruction.

In 754 Vinekh took the throne as leader of the anti-roman faction. Constantine who was in Egypt had beaten some small Berber armies, trying to provoke the emperor of the Berbers, here heard the news.

This was Unacceptable , He himself left the force in Egypt and moved against khan Vinekh. And the khan moved towards the Danube delta, Where Constantine moved , Both armies met near the river, Constantine used Justinian II .


And sent his cavalry away, the bulgars then charged and pushed the romans to the river, as the roman center made a crescent. While the cavalry returned, and attacked the bulgar rear, they panicked and began to fled.

Constantine saw the khan fleeing, and charged, as the sources say the khan was killed with one strike of the sword of Heraclius. The army soon retreated, and most of them were killed.


The bulgar army was scattered and Constantine looked for a candidate to place on the bulgar throne.

It seemed like he founded him, Telets, a noble who belonged to an anti-Slavic faction of the Bulgarian nobility, promised Constantine that he would help the empire against the avars and Slavs.

In reality, he had no intention to do so, as he wanted to invade the empire, even when Bulgaria was still in a midst of civil war, still he was proclaimed as the khan , and Constantine returned to his capital.


756

When Constantine was ready to depart to Egypt, Telets attacked the empire, and sacked some frontier cities.

Its treason then … said Constantine when he got the news.

The Emperor led an enormous army towards Bulgaria but Khan had enough time to bar several mountain passes.

After the romans crossed the Danube, they attacked the capital but the buglar army was nowhere to be found, as Constantine didn’t want to turn the bulgar populous against him, he handed down some supplies to them, and defeated a Slav raiding party.


When the Byzantines reached the Bulgarian mountains,Constantine noticed what was going on , but it was to late. As bulgar warriors began to come down from the mountains , the romans realized They were ambushed.

they rushed down and started to kill the panicked and totally confused Byzantines. The themes where attacked, the plan was simple kill the thematic armies and its commanders.

The plan worked, and they began to route. Soon The Byzantines fruitlessly resisted for a short time and perished. Upon seeing their comrades' fate, the next units immediately ran away.

More ambushing forces began to attack, and the route made trampling just as deadly as the bulgars. And once the romans began to get out arches waited for them and began to shower arrows to the Byzantines.


In the retreat the strategos of Eastern Moesia died, receiving an arrow to the neck. While Constantine barely escaped death. This was massive defeat for the romans.


While Telets seemed like the ruler Bulgaria need it; even many in the pro roman faction joined him.

But some others used Constantine’s help to the capital to show that he, a roman cares more about the bulgars then “their khan”

But Constantine was not yet beaten and swore that the sword of Heraclius would have the blood of the khan.
 
That Han Empire border-gore makes me feel sick to my stomach. Just look at how over-stretched from Mainland China that it. I feel like they'll need to start expanding more into Tibet to have cleaner borders. Such a narrow strip of land is hardly secure.

How goes things for the Romans? I feel like they should now prioritize the reconquest of Cyreneica and Carthage the breadbasket of the West. I can imagine that Italy is facing a food shortage with it being forced to rely on reduced grain shipments from Sicily instead. Constantinople likely feels it got a punch in the gut as well with Egypt now becoming a battleground for the first time in 600 years. Maybe Constantine can try to ally with the Franks to take out the Berbers. This would force them to divert troops from their far flung possessions into Hispania. Constantine can then pull a Belisarius and then stage a three front invasion. With the Franks pinning them in the Pyrrenees, the Romans can then push into Hispania with raiding parties taking the coasts as bases for their navy. With Sicily and Egypt as their staging point, they can now invade North Africa itself retaking Roman Africa. Though this means that the Empire needs to withdraw its other Eastern troops. If Constantine can play the Avars and Bulgars against each other, he could profit and use this borrowed time to retake the Western lands. I can imagine that Persia will be too busy focusing on the Chinese threat in the East to focus on the Romans at this point.
Well even thougth i didn't put it in the map the tibetian empire still exist . So yeah I guess the chinise have to deal with those guys .

In terms of italy it's gonna become the focus after the events in the Balkans .

Hispania and frankia as well .

And you are correct the Persians see the tang as priority so the long peace continuies.

If iam not mistaken this is the longest peace between a Roman and Persian state no? Since 628 no war was been fougth and right now where in 750s
 
@Goldensilver81

What map are you using as a base-map for your timeline? How are you able to draw the borders so accurately?
The Eastern hemesfire map with rivers
From there I create my borders and try to be as accurate as I can .

From there I pass that base to a smaller map like the Balkans and then use it as guide and tweek things form there is by no means perfect as alignment is horrible most of the times but it works

For your timeline I really recommend the Anatolian blank river map
 
bulgar civil war part 2
757

due to the defeat Constantine made a truce with the Berber emperor, favorable to him.

and prepared his troops against Bulgaria, as he would not have left, despite having superior troops


759

Constantine moved his troops, he was at the head of a 65 000 strong army. The khan got news of this and prepared.

Telets at first fortified the mountain passes with his troops and some twenty thousand Slavic auxiliaries. But in his overconfidence

he changed his mind and led out his troops to a plain with some defenses to lower advantage of the byzantine numbers.

The bloody battle of then began at mid-morning, as hours passed the emperor was fighting with his troops until he saw telets.

Soon both men ignored their armies and began circling each other , Both men began to fight, the khan had the advantage of youth and raw strength , While the emperor had experience and training.


The duel was close and they would Perry their strikes but no man would get the advantage here.


But as teltes was getting more desperate to kill the emperor he was getting sloppier and was opening himself more and more. The emperor noticed this and began to block and avoid the attacks.


This got the khan to lose cohesion and he over swung, Constantine Cutting his neck but not the arteries so it was not instantly fatal, still teltes let go of his weapon and covered his now sliced throat.


Constantine began then pushed him and swinging his sword, slicing at the dying body of the khan, brutally disfiguring him, but he continued, his anger for the treason and defeat was poured out against a khan who could not react, but could feel the pain of his “execution”.


After killing him, the emperor then decapitated him, and showed his head to the army, the men who saw this, panicked, and moved, the word spread that the khan was dead, causing a massive route.

still the romans lost 10 000

With the death of Teltes, Constantine now installed Sabin as new khan in 760


Constantine stayed for a year but then massive Slavic incursion in to western Moesia made Constantine move against them

Western Moesia

Constantine 55 000 had to deal with an 80 000 Slavic confederacy force.Constantine used inverted wedge, and the center retreated as the Slavs attacked , Soon they were enveloped, Just like the infamous battle of battle of Cannae

And just like Cannae, the more numerous army was all but killed.The victory was total but Constantine crossed the Danube and began attacking Slav- avar territory.


The khan also had to deal with them, and won a victory against them in the Carpathian Mountains, this got him the support of the people, and soon they had a feast.

In that night the new khan Sabin was strangled in his sleep by a member of the anti-roman faction.


Umor another member of the pro roman faction got the throne, but he was not as talented, and bearely ruled for 20 days before he was deposed and killed by toktu and his supporters.


Toktu became the new khan, he was a member of the anti-roman faction and prepared his realm for a war against them, planning massive raids on the empire to get funds and to crush the pro roman faction, but unfotrnlty for him, Constantine returned from his campaign from the Slavs.

Toku was surprised and reunited whatever force he had to fight, as many pro roman Bulgarian and even neutral Bulgarians joined Constantine as he gave part of what he gained from the raids to them.

Now the new khan was horribly outnumbered, and tried to flee, but it was no use, Constantine army began to chase him.

Once they cough up, the khan took a defensive position.

But Constantine had learned many strategies, the send his force to attack. And then retreated the khan, in being desperate fell in to the trap and chased the romans. the romans kept fleeing till certain point.

the romans moved and the bulgars were surrounded.

Toktu was slain by Constantine and the sword of Heraclius had claimed the life of a fourth khan.


After the battle Constantine received a tittle, δολοφόνος των χαν , The khan slayer or the slayer of khans.

Telerig became the new khan, a smart man, got the throne, while he was not 100% pro roman he recognized their state as being the power of the region.

So Constantine installed telerig as khan by 762
 
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Interesting timeline. Some thoughts:

-How are these Bulgarians? Seems in this world they are not quite Bulgarians but Bolghars culturally, i.e. the nomadic elites did not assimilate into the local Slav population and kept their horse culture. And this being seemingly true, how do they look ethnically? Are they basically Bolgharized Slavs who have adopted the nomad way of life, or is there still a small core of Asiatic horsemen ruling over local Slavs/proto-Romanians?

-What is the status of the Avars, weren't they basically in terminal decline at this point?

-Not sure if I like the rise of the Berbers. It feels fairly unrealistic, what with having a few generations of brilliant leadership and success. Seemingly these semi-barbarians can rival Rome in a fairly short time, that their navy is worth half a damn and raising numbers of troops as high and higher than Romans seems especially silly.
This ties in with the bit where you love to make references to our timeline, some make sense like the Alt-Tours battle (though should Martel even be alive, wasn't he born post-PoD). Some like with the Berbers do not, as I feel you wanted an alternate Caliphate (though I did notice your Muhammed reference in the new Hijaz Kingdom ;) ) which takes advantage of a weakened Rome to cause rapid collapse of vast swaths of land. And I feel this is not needed, as history clearly shows Rome is not perfect and setbacks will happen but ones as massive as this are unlikely. Ultimately I hope Rome can recover Mare Nostrum eventually.

-What is the religious state of the various powers in Europe and Africa? Seems to me the main opposition to Roman rules comes from heretics and their rivals would seek to adopt non-Orthodox versions of the faith to have another tool of power against Roman domination. Seems most Arabs are Nestorian, some maybe Monothelite. The Berbers also seem to be Monothelite. Especially interesting is the situation in Western Europe, they should follow the Papal lead and adopt Orthodoxy but their main rival are the Romans. What is the state of Christianity there? Lastly, how is the the process of maintaining this new Orthodoxy going on in Roman lands? Where has there been successful adoption, where is the resistance?

-I feel you went way overboard with the early deaths of the Emperors, probably as an overreaction to the long reign of Constans. The early death of his son Constantine makes sense since he would be relatively old himself given how long his father reigned. So okay the first regency but then immediately after a second one... at the very least that is one quick death too many. Historically obv. such things happened but narratively it is meh at best.

-So the Heraclian dynasty is finished? Why is that? Did Tiberius have no children? What about Heraclius Jr. did he have children or his brother before he died? Seems odd to just give up the imperial crown just like that. Maybe anything but a son of Tiberius was not possible because of the influence Leo's family had. Anyway pity to see their end.

-As I said I love your timeline idea, and I can tell you know a lot about history. Which is probably the only reason I stuck to this timeline since as you are aware your English is less than optimal to say the least. That is the key difference, some timelines have awful English but the story is not strong enough or believable enough to hold my attention, you certainly succeeded in that regard. While I will keep reading your work regardless maybe consider getting an editor?

All in all an interesting and reasonable timeline, it is great and keep it up m8 : )
 
thanks

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Interesting timeline. Some thoughts:

-How are these Bulgarians? Seems in this world they are not quite Bulgarians but Bolghars culturally, i.e. the nomadic elites did not assimilate into the local Slav population and kept their horse culture. And this being seemingly true, how do they look ethnically? Are they basically Bolgharized Slavs who have adopted the nomad way of life, or is there still a small core of Asiatic horsemen ruling over local Slavs/proto-Romanians?
eh i cant answer this sorry would contian to much spoilers

-What is the status of the Avars, weren't they basically in terminal decline at this point?
they are and trust me they are going to apear son enougth .



--Not sure if I like the rise of the Berbers. It feels fairly unrealistic, what with having a few generations of brilliant leadership and success. Seemingly these semi-barbarians can rival Rome in a fairly short time, that their navy is worth half a damn and raising numbers of troops as high and higher than Romans seems especially silly.
This ties in with the bit where you love to make references to our timeline, some make sense like the Alt-Tours battle (though should Martel even be alive, wasn't he born post-PoD). Some like with the Berbers do not, as I feel you wanted an alternate Caliphate (though I did notice your Muhammed reference in the new Hijaz Kingdom ;) ) which takes advantage of a weakened Rome to cause rapid collapse of vast swaths of land. And I feel this is not needed, as history clearly shows Rome is not perfect and setbacks will happen but ones as massive as this are unlikely. Ultimately I hope Rome can recover Mare Nostrum eventually.
1) i know the rise of the berbers seem a little farfeched but in the olt , they where alredy possing a treath to the roman africa , with many raids , costal regions where fairly safe though, i also wanted to portray historical ... "unpredictableness"

what do i mean by that if you told me that the arabs where to conquer all these lands , or the west would domiate , or that the europeans would conquer so much of america , i would laugth saying its unrelistic , but that is how history is.


history will not always follow the predictable line one makes out to be in alternitive history things that are wierd happen , i tried to not make it 100% ABS and have a reason as to why the altavan kingdom united the berbers in to the berber empire , seeing as how most berbers where heretics under the byzantine eye and that causes conflict , this combined with other pressures, and other factors

i had many ways of seeing how this would play out a confederation would have been more realistic ( even thougth it was confederation in the begining) but eh i said whats the point i mean the confederation would either

a) die or b) become an empire

allowed the berbers to win , the berbers in this timeline are combination of nomad warriors with good beurocracy ie a good combination and try to make real factors as to why they would win .

for know they do look like the caliphate but ...things would are going to change a lot .

as for martel i did say id keep buterflies to a mimnuim at least for the 7th and 8th centuries.




--What is the religious state of the various powers in Europe and Africa? Seems to me the main opposition to Roman rules comes from heretics and their rivals would seek to adopt non-Orthodox versions of the faith to have another tool of power against Roman domination. Seems most Arabs are Nestorian, some maybe Monothelite. The Berbers also seem to be Monothelite. Especially interesting is the situation in Western Europe, they should follow the Papal lead and adopt Orthodoxy but their main rival are the Romans. What is the state of Christianity there? Lastly, how is the the process of maintaining this new Orthodoxy going on in Roman lands? Where has there been successful adoption, where is the resistance?

the berbers are pot of diferent sects , something that will come in to play later, well in western europe everyone is 100% chalcedonian , except for hispania but i dont want to spoil what comes nexy.

well , Constantine IV murdered the resistance of mesopotemia and egypt , mesopotemia is an instresting case as like i mentioned many times the exchart has to keep everyone happy and prevent revolts , in egypt Constantine V killed 12 000 in 744 like i mentioned for their betreyal in 740

so one is kept under check by good political strategy , the other one is still licking its wounds from the prevoius massacre .

but i will dedicate chapters to religion .


-I feel you went way overboard with the early deaths of the Emperors, probably as an overreaction to the long reign of Constans. The early death of his son Constantine makes sense since he would be relatively old himself given how long his father reigned. So okay the first regency but then immediately after a second one... at the very least that is one quick death too many. Historically obv. such things happened but narratively it is meh at best.

eh i did do it as reaction of constans 4 decade long rule , Constantine was old also like olt he most likely going by his mosaics had cancer or leucemia the dude was 30 and looked like a corpse if the mosaics are to be trusted

as for justinian well , i mean like you said it makes sense historicaly sure dying of a stroke does not sound awesome but it does happen, but like you said its not the best narrtively i gotta keep the historical realisim and narrtive in balance so things dont becomes to boring or ABS for the sake of the plot.


--So the Heraclian dynasty is finished? Why is that? Did Tiberius have no children? What about Heraclius Jr. did he have children or his brother before he died? Seems odd to just give up the imperial crown just like that. Maybe anything but a son of Tiberius was not possible because of the influence Leo's family had. Anyway pity to see their end.
Not by a long shot , i said that Constantine V married a heraclian , other wise the dude was never becomeing emperor , and gave birth to a daughter named Irine (not iriene of athens by the way) , tiberuis is still alive i wil get to his childen soon enougth.

but i guess this a problem with my style of telling the story i put tiny references , like for example heraclius other "campaing" and people when the chapter comes out says thats lazy or thats bad.

but in my mind its just that a tease , its like rigth now iam not going to tell you since it adds nothing to the story Rigth now , but the topic will rise again in a certian context . just as it did when Constans was invading hispania there i put the context and the backstory of Heraclius other "campaing"


-As I said I love your timeline idea, and I can tell you know a lot about history. Which is probably the only reason I stuck to this timeline since as you are aware your English is less than optimal to say the least. That is the key difference, some timelines have awful English but the story is not strong enough or believable enough to hold my attention, you certainly succeeded in that regard. While I will keep reading your work regardless maybe consider getting an editor?

All in all an interesting and reasonable timeline, it is great and keep it up m8 : )[/QUOTE]

i think i will get and editor
 
Thanks for the replies, they make a lot of sense to me. Personally I quite dislike ignoring butterflies, especially when it comes to unborn people, what are the odds a particular sperm finds a particular egg? Astronomical. Even if by familial inertia the kid has the same name they will be a different person on a fundamental level even ignoring changed circumstances of their life, they would grow to be totally different. However, while it is unscientific I can accept it as a artistic choice so I can enjoy a story like that regardless.
 
Hispania and frankia
730s

After the battle of tours, Charles Martel directed his attention to Septimania , In 737 the Frankish leader went on to attack Narbonne, the ruler held firm .


His city survivied until .Duke plaleguis tariq and king askel himself went to the north and deafeated Charles at the battle of Narbonne .

Charles had to go back north without subduing Narbonne, and had to pay a hefty ransom for his freedom and safe passage back to frankia .

This bolster the wealth of Askel


746-752


The civil war was over, and reconstruction could beging .

In this time In the great gerenal Tariq died .

His burrial was attended by askel , many berber nobles .

On his visit to Hispania the new Emperor thought that he could infrease the taxes on this wealthy region .

Hispania was still wealthy , despite loosing most of their capable soldiers.

The beber empire was still very rich.

Due to this and the new emperor resprect for his uncle .
Said that No new taxes where levied

This allowed Askel to continue to spend his treasury on his kingdom , he had remade Hispania into a triving province.

Ever since his deafeat at tours Askel dedicated more time to internal matters as he was getting old and became less worried about conquest and raids .

Roman aqueducts where being rebuild alongside many other things .

With the news that no new taxes where to be implemented.

These where great news to the king .

Since Askel had a dream that toledo would become a city that would rival Constantinople.

So he ordered the construction of a massive curch.

As sing of his wealth and to calm down the clergy .

Who had distaste for him do to him limiting thier powers and not allowing them to choose the king at least not directly anymore .

But their new income was stronger than their "hate" of the invader.

He also began construction on a new library .

And many other works around the whole kingdom.

To show that the bebers where just as if not greater than the current Romans at building magnificent works of arquitecture.

After some years of work .

Askel would die in 752 leaving the throne to Askel II

Luckily by his death both his chruch and library where finished .

753

Do to him being busy in Bulgaria, emperor Constantine said proposed , that the Franks attack Hispania more specifically septemenia.

And they did, Pippin headed south to Septimania.

When he did gothic nobles
declared their loyalty to the Frankish king.

The Gothic nobles and the Franks then began to besiege Narbonne.

However, the strongly Gothic Garrison of Narbonne the Carolingian assult.

Also the attacks on the rearguard by a Basque army under the Aquitanian duke didn't make things easy for Pippin.


754

As the city was being bessiged .

An anti-Frank reaction, led by Ermeniard, killed Ansemund, but the uprising was without success and Radulf was designated new count by the Frankish court.

Still peppin abandoned his attacks and concentrated on internal matters as he was to make sure that no other Lord would rebel when he was attacking the berbers .



759

The 5 year long "peace" was broken as peppin marched against the berbers for the second time.

Narbonne was put under siege.

And unlike the previous attack , the frankish king had learned from his mistake .

Narbonne capitulated peacefully only after Pippin promised the defenders that he would keep the Roman law intact and the county was granted to Miló.

Still the king of Hispania went with an army to recover it putting the army of the north under his direct command.

He led the army to ....slaughter almost all the northern army was killed by the Franks .

With the amry of the north defeated .

the new king pleased to the emperor to help him .

But the berber army was not prepared , most of them had not seen battle as
They had to rebuild the army from northing after their defeats and the civil war

Timidity won the day the beber emperor sent mearly 2000 troops not enough to deal with the frankish menace .

Seeing that he was alone
And with his probability of winning lowered .

The king of Hispania surrender and
The region of Roussillon was taken by the Franks in 760.

This events made a further divide between the 2 berber realms
 
fall of the avar khaganate
765

New treaty was signed in addition to fulfilling most of his objectives, but he still intended to attack them and push them back But first he needed it to take care of the northern problem.

This peace finally allowed him to deal with it. Due to the avar attacks and Slavic attacks, as the thematic armies moved with Constantine leading them.

As they attacked, the Italian army moved from the north of the peninsula to attack from the south west.


767

The avars avoided any confrontation limiting their armies to harass supply chains, pick off smaller groups, and in some cases night attacks. But now with the romans pushing them back further the avars began to flee from roman armies heading to the north.

Despite not fully recovering from the civil war telerig moved against the Slavs and avars , attacking from the south east .

No one knows for certainty

But many say it was :

To expand his territory and new subjects, to get booty and to show good a sing of friendship and get good favor from the romans.

When they attacked and the romans pushed deeper. Tribal infighting began; this truly showed the weakness the khaganate .

768

Constantine captured a large, fortified encampment known as "the Ring", which contained many spoils of the khaganate, riches that he sent back to the capital.

After this many Slavic’s tribe s joined the, who established polities on former Avar territory. Now the avar realm was torn apart.

During this time Constantine sent the duke Spoleto to another campaign in the west.

Late 769

The romans had pushed deep and met the Bulgarian army near the old dacia. The 3 thematic armies, the Italian army, telerig army and Slavic soldiers.

100 000 thousand men, 60 000 romans, with 15 000 alongside 25 000.

While the avars had barely 24 000 with Slavic auxiliaries .


The battle rather the slaughter lasted barely 30 minutes.

The avar nobility was almost slaughter to a man and with the victory of the first and last pitched battle of the whole campaign. During the battle the khan slayer had killed the avar khan.

With the death of the khan and the nobility dead. The collapse of the khaganate was now eminent.


770

The Avar chieftains had surrendered , The avar khaganate the scourge of the Balkans, the people who nearly killed Great Heraclius. Was reduced to nothing. Soon the spoils where shared between the 2 powers.

Bulgaria nearly doubled in size, but Constantine made sure the Bulgarian roman border in the Danube didn’t grow.

The romans extended their territories to the Danube.

Also to balance power with the Bulgarians and to have power north of the Danube.

Constantine installed various Slavic principalities as client states, and tied them so that they were rivals, and therefore won’t unite against the empires, but also stayed with the empire due to the distrust of the Bulgarian empire.

Constantine also installed the remaining avar nobility in to smaller khanate. All these successes strengthen the romans military and financially .

The romans under the duke of Spoleto also took Carantania as another client state. It’s a preparation of what was to come next.
 
balkans 770 AD

roman empire ( purple)
bulgarian empire (green)
slavic principalities( those in Between the bulgarians and romans)
avar remenat ( east of Carantania )
Carantania ( ligth purple north east of italy)

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joined the, who
This is an especially confusing mistake, because at that point we don't know who the Slavs would ally with Rome or Bulgaria. It is pretty clear after that it is Romans but still, worth fixing.
r the duke of Spoleto also took Carantania
Is carantania populated by the proto-Slovenes? Or some other group. Provided the question is not spoilerific.

Anyway good update, this new Bulgaria could grow immensely, perhaps becoming a kind of proto-Russia in that it unites many Slavs. I see no real checks to their expansion other than Romans deciding they are too powerful (won't happen soon), a massive confederation of Slavs or some powerful horde. Interesting to see where they go so gief more updates :p
 
the council of the elders of italy
770

Leo son of kosmo, exchart of Revena was visiting Rome; the city was in celebration due to Constantine victory over the scourge of the north the avar khaganate .

And arrived in the flavian amphitheater, reconstructed by the great heraclian emperors, reconstruction began in 670 but did not finish until 690.
But the biggest addition was a statue of Constans II in the same latitude of the old imperial seat; the statue shows him with the sword of Heraclius pointing to the west. To show that the conqueror, or liberator of Italy and the west.

Outside of the theater people where debating on who would win in the many spectacles of the today’s game.
As performers where on the streets, while the markets of the city where busy,and men where throwing bread to the poor of the city .

Also the stars of the games where outside, and many commented that they could not believe that the romans or anyone could build.

As the exchart entered and went to his seat, and as the duke and the other important rulers of Italy . The crowd of thousands cheered his name, the name of the duke of Spoleto and the name of the emperor.

The celebration finally began with chariot races, Then performers came with marvelous spectacles.

Then the next events where wrestlers , and many fights occurred , as many people cheered and many laughed when they won their debates on who would win , like the romans of old they debated on the minute details like speed vs strength

The final fight of the day would be an Italian vs an Anatolian, the fight was long but the Anatolian managed to win.

Then the presenter spoke

On this day we reach back towards a century to bring you a recreation of the worst defeat of a Barbarian leader ,on the plains of Hispania, I present to you.

The Duke of Aquitaine FELIX


A man came out wearing armor and with an axe, of course these weapons where blunted it was a real fight but not to be a mortal fight.

On the other side, from Constantinople Iam please to bring you son of the bearded emperor, CONSTANTINE.

The fight went almost as how the sources said it was.

But changings aspect of Constantine’s “tactical retreat” and like in history Constantine won.

The announcer then said that he hoped the games where to everyone’s enjoyment as they ended for now.

Once the games where over, the exchart the duke and the important nobles left the place and Reunited in the old reconstructed flavian palace. Everyone greeted each other

Leo spoke and said:

I wish we could all have reunited just for the games, sadly we must reunite to speak of the danger that is coming, and most of you know what Iam talking about the … franks.

It is clear that its new king Charles has an interest on Carantania and the lands of Pannonia some reports even say he even wants to attack Italy and go beyond the po river.


All men knew that Charles had interest on Carantania but not Italy.

One noble said: this can’t be, no barbarian has ever attacked Italy south of the po river for over 100 years.

Another noble said: Charles had inherited a kingdom with no real enemies as the Berbers where defeated and with them gone, the dukes of Aquitaine lost their ally

It was a matter of time before the Frankish king took the duchy. Now he is interested in the empire’s land


The duke of Spoleto Transamund III spoke: so with no real opposition in the west, he will turn to Pannonia, Italy and Carantania.

If he intends to attack the area recently conquered by his majesty, we should worry as there are no real defenses there.

Maybe we can have possible allies to undermine that:
said Leo

We have, the Berbers but I doubt they would attack the franks , but the Slavs would join us



One count said: the Bulgarians might help, since if Charles conquers the lands of the north, they would attack them as well

Another count said: What about the other barbarians to the north, The Saxons and the other Germanic tribes.

I suggest that the emperor make an alliance with the bulgars, they might betray the empire if the franks ask them to attack the Slavs, or if they feel that the emperor
: said the duke of Spoleto

And to construct fortifications among the po and the Danube Rivers said a count.

Leo and most agreed

The next days the games continued, and when they ended they reunited to debate.

After debates most agreed that conscription must be augmented to more people, and that new forts shall be constructed.

And that the emperor should sing a new treaty with the Bulgarians.

The council sent their decision to the emperor; He approved the idea, since right now Constantine was overseeing internal policies.

His biggest problem was that of succession he had no male heir, but someone caught his attention.

Tiberius the old emperor third son, Constants he was young barely 11, but he was intelligent . He would not choose him out right but he was going to test him if he was the best candidate.
 
This is an especially confusing mistake, because at that point we don't know who the Slavs would ally with Rome or Bulgaria. It is pretty clear after that it is Romans but still, worth fixing.

Is carantania populated by the proto-Slovenes? Or some other group. Provided the question is not spoilerific.

Anyway good update, this new Bulgaria could grow immensely, perhaps becoming a kind of proto-Russia in that it unites many Slavs. I see no real checks to their expansion other than Romans deciding they are too powerful (won't happen soon), a massive confederation of Slavs or some powerful horde. Interesting to see where they go so gief more updates :p
Yes the área is a proto slavic nation
In terms of Bulgaria , the civil war and consolidatío no the new territory would keep the romans calm as their state has to recover
 
Frankish roman war
August 771

The frankish king with his uncle invaded the roman client state of Carantania.

This surprised the romans as they did not expect the invasion to occurr so soon.
News also came from the theme of Iberia that the khazar army was seei
Charles had made a proposal to them to split the provinces they wanted of the roman empire .

The emperor before he moved the tegmata need to be sure that persia would not attack .

As if his suspitition where true , and the franks and the khazar khaganate made a deal of sort who is to say that the franks didn't make a treaty with the Persians promesing Mesopotemia .

For now he wrote instruction to the themes and the exchart of revena on how to deal with the .

Unfortunately for him , the duke of spoleto was visiting norther Italy .

And him and some governors moved against the franks.

Charles heard about this move and took half of his forces leaving his uncle to conquer the región.

The duke and the northern italian army had yo cross the alps and do they did .
Taking one of the routes that hanibal used , his intention was to out flank the franks and attack them forcing them to leave the roman client state .
But the franksish scouta informed the king about this manuver.
When the duke finally got to the pass .
The franks waited Charles put himself at the head of part of his forces

Not wanting to retreat the duke charged the franks retreated but then they stois their ground .
Soon a signal was made The frankish soldiers came out deceded and surrounded the roman forces .

Despite having superior equipment ,training and numbers .
The tuff and battle harden franks wold have been a good match in a normal battle .

But in this spot the romans stood no chance

In the chaos the duke of spoleto was slain , along side many other important officials like the governor of Pavia .

Alongside them ,the northern italian army was almost inhalated and only a few thousand me it back to Italy .
After the victory Charles returned to carantania.

Where his uncle had taking most of the region except for the main fortress who was under siege , the franks intended to starve it out as they had no choice, since they had no siege engines .

The rest of the Italian army was ready to move but the news of the slaughter at was enough to deter them .
Even so the emperor was busy and the exchart was not sure of what to do so it became a stalemanate till winter .
 
Second roman khazar war
When charles and the khazars attacked , he was worried that the Persian migth attack .

But Sha Khurshid had no intention to break the peace, but he did want to scare the emperor , he had wasted much of the treasury on His projects and had neglected the payment of the army , so he said he would uphold the peace but that
Not as tribute by as help he would even offer some soldiers to the emperor.
And he did ,so both parties where satisfied.

With that settled, Constantine moved against the khazars , the themes of armenia , laizica and Iberia had been affected by raids.but they had learned from the previous war , the nomads had greater mobility, but the mountains wheres perfect chokepoints here the themata, attacked , picking of scouting parties , and small detachments,slowing down the khazars advance to the empire .

Still , Constantine arrived with the tegmata and more forces .


The battle began the next day the first one to charge was the strategos of armenia and Iberia .

The romans decided to attack the khazar lef .

And managed to inflict casualties to the khazar left flank and even push it back, soon the Byzantine center and left engaged , with few options decided to retreat .

Constantine knew this trick all to well and told his troops to stop the persiut.

The khazar comander seeing that the romans did not follow him had 2 options when the feign retreat failed , return and face the roman force or retreat , he chose the latter.

Constantine retreated to his camp , and waited for another day of fighting but it never came , his scouts told him that the
The victory took presure of the 3 themes, it took of pressure from the bulgarians who where also facing the khazars but got defeated in some battles.

Constantine persuited the nomads, and won minor engaments. Still winter had arrived, now he had time to think .

The emperor was left with a dilema does he continue and attack the khazars, letting the Slavs and romans take care of the frankish king .

Or does he leave for the west and attack Charles, and leave the themes to defend against nomadic raids .
 
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I think it is criminal how little attention your TL is getting, there should be more likes and comments. It is really good, you know your history and it is just plain interesting. As I said I think it is mostly your bad English that is holding you back. If you care to increase the number of readers it might be a good idea to go over it all with an editor and repost the edited pages in a new thread as they come while this one goes on as usual. I can volunteer myself but I will work slowly with all my own engagements so more of us helping you would be better. Let me know what you think.

As for the story while I still enjoy it as my likes show nothing huge has happened yet so not much to add. The war itself could be big, if Charles is as capable a leader ITTL as OTL though as I said before that seems unlikely, we will see I guess.
 
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