Wait I just realized that the Berbers are acting like the Arabs of OTL in terms of their conquest. What makes no sense to me is how they were so quickly able to overcome Egpyt. Egypt has been under constant Roman rule for 700 years since the days of Augustus its been a proper integrated part of the Empire for so long. How did it fall so easily. How have the Berbers not been overstretched here. How are they even holding the place. North Africa is not as developed as coastal Arabia which had access to trade between India, Persia, and the Roman Empire. They should be focusing on consolidating their gains here, and the Romans should have their armies and garrisons intact here with the recovery of the Empire under Heraclius, Constantine IV, and Constans II the Romans have basically had 3 generations of very competent Emperors (6/6/6 EUIV Reference). There's not really a reason why the Romans should be performing this poorly. Sure they had a civil war, but Heraclius after he deposed Phocas found the treasury empty, and then had to fight a 20 year long war with the Persians which he fought to a bloody stalemate bringing back the empire from near certain doom. Unlike otl Heraclius managed to rule long enough for the Empire to begin its recovery process. In otl the Arab Conquests disrupted this recovery. Thanks to Islam not arising, Rome then had both Constans II and Constantine IV rule well and help expand the Empire far beyond Justinian's conquests. The recovery was well enough that they had resource to rebuild Italy into a thriving province as the Empire's birthplace and ancient cultural heartland. In otl Maurice was beset on all sides and the treasury was near empty and his small army of 100k troops (Justinians full active duty troops were in the range of the 300-400k) was scattered defending the provinces as garrisons and patrolling the frontier to deter enemy raids. The Heraclians thanks to the long peace and stable reign of multiple generations of Competent Rulers (Justinians successors aside from Maurice were all horribly incompetent) that was able to bring a new golden age to the Empire.

Constans II is basically the Basil II of the Heraclians here, leaving a full treasury with the Heraclian Renaissance peaking under him. It took Basil II's successors who were cartoonishly incompetent for the Empire to end up in the 11th century crisis that culminated in the Battle of Manzikert. Constantine X after all was the one who simply chose to ignore the Turkish raids across the border and had the dumb idea of gutting the military of funding and disbanding the Armenian garrison of 50,000 soldiers in the face of the Seljuk onslaught. He also decided to appoint his toadies to generalship instead of promoting competent men undoing the work of Empress Theodora and the military reformer Emperor Issac I Komnenos. Sure the Romans had a civil war, but their leadership hasn't had that many decades to rot right?
 
Wait I just realized that the Berbers are acting like the Arabs of OTL in terms of their conquest. What makes no sense to me is how they were so quickly able to overcome Egpyt. Egypt has been under constant Roman rule for 700 years since the days of Augustus its been a proper integrated part of the Empire for so long. How did it fall so easily. How have the Berbers not been overstretched here. How are they even holding the place. North Africa is not as developed as coastal Arabia which had access to trade between India, Persia, and the Roman Empire. They should be focusing on consolidating their gains here, and the Romans should have their armies and garrisons intact here with the recovery of the Empire under Heraclius, Constantine IV, and Constans II the Romans have basically had 3 generations of very competent Emperors (6/6/6 EUIV Reference). There's not really a reason why the Romans should be performing this poorly. Sure they had a civil war, but Heraclius after he deposed Phocas found the treasury empty, and then had to fight a 20 year long war with the Persians which he fought to a bloody stalemate bringing back the empire from near certain doom. Unlike otl Heraclius managed to rule long enough for the Empire to begin its recovery process. In otl the Arab Conquests disrupted this recovery. Thanks to Islam not arising, Rome then had both Constans II and Constantine IV rule well and help expand the Empire far beyond Justinian's conquests. The recovery was well enough that they had resource to rebuild Italy into a thriving province as the Empire's birthplace and ancient cultural heartland. In otl Maurice was beset on all sides and the treasury was near empty and his small army of 100k troops (Justinians full active duty troops were in the range of the 300-400k) was scattered defending the provinces as garrisons and patrolling the frontier to deter enemy raids. The Heraclians thanks to the long peace and stable reign of multiple generations of Competent Rulers (Justinians successors aside from Maurice were all horribly incompetent) that was able to bring a new golden age to the Empire.

Constans II is basically the Basil II of the Heraclians here, leaving a full treasury with the Heraclian Renaissance peaking under him. It took Basil II's successors who were cartoonishly incompetent for the Empire to end up in the 11th century crisis that culminated in the Battle of Manzikert. Constantine X after all was the one who simply chose to ignore the Turkish raids across the border and had the dumb idea of gutting the military of funding and disbanding the Armenian garrison of 50,000 soldiers in the face of the Seljuk onslaught. He also decided to appoint his toadies to generalship instead of promoting competent men undoing the work of Empress Theodora and the military reformer Emperor Issac I Komnenos. Sure the Romans had a civil war, but their leadership hasn't had that many decades to rot right?
simple the berbers have not conquered egpypt , they only took some areas by force since most of the land was handed to them the copts not all of them but in many cases , opened the gates to the berbers , since ever since the council of constantinople the egpyptians have been persecuted a lot and force to convert to chalcedonian chirsnitnity by the byzantines ,this has been going on for about 60 years tensions have been boiling. as the manaphystes hate their byzantine overlords, this has also created tensions with the ghassanids

" North Africa is not as developed as coastal Arabia which had access to trade between India, Persia," constants has turned north africa in to spledid rich province after gregories rebellion.

while iam taking reference to the arab invasions the berber ones have big diference that they have a better system of rule than the rashudin caliphates this is why up until now the berbers had no civil war , aslo the berbers have conquered a rich province allowing them to take these riches and , also now the empire lost these rich provinces so cuts have to be made

and as you may have read the empire has sufered since the death of heraclius ( the other one) caused problems

leo had to deal with rebellion after rebelion against him until he won the first siege of alexandria back in 728

Also i think that i made clear that Tariq is basicily the alexander of his time , the odds are against him but he does manage to win.

hope that explains also i want to see your new update for your timeline cheers
 
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Second Berber siege of Alexandria Part 2
as winter continued , Leo prayers where Heard, as sha Dadhburzmihr had died , and his son Khurshid was barely 6 ,the regent of kurshid , had no intention to attack the romans.

Good news for Leo came as well, the Berbers in the island where retreating, starvation had cause them to surrender or flee as the food went solely to the troops of Alexandria.


Leo now had to make a choice who to engage first?

He thought about it , if he went for Alexandria and the Berbers, where welcomed by the heretics …. The Levant and Syria could fall.

But if he went for the Berbers in the Levant, Egypt could fall. After some day Leo made his choice

by late spring , Leo moved .

He marched his army towards Syria, this army had contingents mostly from Anatolia Armenia and the Balkans.

He reunited with the survivors, the 15 000, and the ghassanid troops who despite the tensions over religion, chose the devil they knew.

late summer

Tariq was gone, the Berber second in command now moved, Leo moved as well and both met near Petra.

Leo had hidden a part of his force on the mountians near the city . Now he attacked, and it seemed like the battle would be a stalemate.

But after some time, the Berbers began to push back the romans, It seemed like Leo would loose Then he gave the signal.

The troops came out and attacked the rear, the Berbers where in shock and scattered, but leo was not over, as he moved his troops , he surrounded the Berbers

The Berbers now fought for their lives as the carnage began Byzantine casualties where heavy, but The entire berber force was annihilated.

Askel heard this now moved part of his army to various forts of egypt.

Days later

Now Leo moved , and his fleet arrived , Burning the northern portion of the Berber fleet.

After 27 months of siege the barber lifted the siege, the army of the city moved and killed many as they retreated.

Only 30 000 made it back to Cyrine.

The romans now seemed to push the Berbers out of Egypt but during the campaign Leo said to not pursuit them as the Manaphyistes of eastern Egypt rebelled. And thus Emperor Tiberius decided to call of the pursuit.

Leo knew he could not disobey for fear of a civil war and seeking “personal glory”

So the Berbers now controlled every west of the Nile River, except for the delta.

Leo defeated the rebellion hanging its leaders, and then moved back. Still Leo now used this time to create new themes as it seemed war with Persia would come in the next years

The Berbers where weakened and the Persians now , Leo created, the themes of Iberia, of Armenia, Laizica , Susa, Hereaclea ,Navhan,Adiabene.


Just a few months late he died

for the berbers the impact of the siege was horrible , they had suferred their first massive deafeat agains the byzantines , the road to syria and the levant was blocked , and the berber emperor promised he would never attempet to take Alexadria.

the movement of the troops also , made the 2 brothers distruit each other and the rift Between the two grew.
 
Dear God this has been utterly catastrophic for the Romans. Heraclius is probably spinning in his grave so fast right now that the the Romans could convert it to energy and use it to start an industrial revolution allowing them to steamroll the West retaking their lost lands and all of the Western parts of the Empire.
Heraclius be like you fuc** idoits my dynasty was the best

You had one job no more civil wars .

The idiots : want a civil war ?
 
Wait are you really dividing Egypt by the Nile as a boundary? :eek: really I can see a branch of the Nile forming part of the border in Lower Egypt, but the Nile should not form a border in Upper Egypt. Also in case of weakness, perhaps Nobatia could push northwards to incorporate southern parts of Egypt
 
Constantine asencion
741

The 35 year old Tiberuis abdicates, and gives Throne to Leo’s son, Constantine.

Who became Constantine V. Unlike his father Constantine had married a daughter of Justinian II. Due to his father’s victories , his marriage , and the proclamation of Tiberuis .

Massive civil war was avoided . Still there where rebellion of the new themes his father created , The rebelions where crushed in a few months .

Constantine began with many reforms

By 744 Constantine gave birth to her first daughter, who she named Irine, This shut up many future rebells as not only had he married a heraclian but also made one .

in this same year he heard incredible news

Ever since the siege of alexandria , the relationship of the 2 berber brothers deteriorated .

since 743

both sides where at war , and the emeperor of the berbers moved his army against hispania.

Constantine could not Let this Golden opportunity go by .He moved a 45 000 strong army against Egypt .

The emperor who had just won a battlle had sent 10 000 troops against Constantine, making it some 30 000 troops.

both armies met near Menphis

like Justinian , he told his cavarly to move in a deep flanking manuver, this made the berbers charge and they pushed back , but soon it was the byzantines who pushed the berbers back , so much so that they pushed them towards their camp.

After being pushed out of the fortified camp , Here they resisted many attacks led by Constantine . However, the roman cavarly came and attacked them from the left flank.

the carnage began in some sectors but half of the berber army , escaped , The survivors of the battle fled towards their forts.

after the battle ,Constantine with his golden armrour all dirty from dust and sand .

his face filled , with blood and sweat.

And with the sword of Heraclius dripping in berber blood ,Moved to higher ground as the people saw him , He Raised the sword of Heraclius , he let out a battle cry.

As the men, also raised their waeapons , and cheered his and name of Heraclius.


By 746

After some sieges the berbers where kicked out of Egypt, along side the dead , 12 000 men where killed by Constantine V army all heretics to symbolyse the price of rebellion

But Constantine could not continue the reconquest as news reached that the khazars where moving to attack . He ignored it assuming the themes could take care of it , but then for ignoring the danger the theme of iberia revolted .

Constantine had no option but to return , he left many people take care of egypt and be sure that the heretics didnt try anyting
 
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Wait are you really dividing Egypt by the Nile as a boundary? :eek: really I can see a branch of the Nile forming part of the border in Lower Egypt, but the Nile should not form a border in Upper Egypt. Also in case of weakness, perhaps Nobatia could push northwards to incorporate southern parts of Egypt
well not really
 
Berber civil war
743
Both of their fleets met in the mediterian, here the emperial fleet won against the Hispanic fleet .

Mid 744
The berber emperor landed , and began attacking the cities of Hispania.

Having minor victories and loses until winter arrived .

Early 745

Tariq returned from borber figths with the franks, even thougth he swore loyalty the emperor.

He do to the bond he had with Askel , made him chose him over his brother.

He moved and both armies met near Toledo.

The battle began close to Dawn .
with an attack from the emperor troops .

Tariq divided his army into 3 divisions.

The first division was led by king askel , the second division was led by himself and the third division by another general .

King askel with his division battled with empeor alone.

Hours passed men fell , but still the battle raged on .

Close to the afternoon, Tariqs his and division joined the battle and circled
The emperor and his troops.

The emperors troops panicked and started to lose their formation.

then Tariq ordered the third division of his army to attack and finish the battle.

They where encircled and began figthing for their lives .

But in the chaos , an arrow landed and threw the general of his horse .

And he almost got trampled .

King Askel also didn't come unscathed from the battle as one of his legs suffered , the king became a lame man .
He had to limp and walk with a cane for the rest of his life .


But emperor Gwfa died.

And thus the berber civil war ended.

They had also lost , so much , the siege , Egypt , and the lives of thousands.

The empire of the berbers was weakened but not gone .
 
Byzantine - Khazar wars
Late 746

In the winter of this year , as Constantine was in Egypt , 50,000 Khazars invaded Armenia and Iberia inflicting a crushing defeat on theme of armenia , killing its Strategos.

the khazars seperated and moved against the diferrent themes

The theme of iberia sent letters to the emperor , but he ignored it , thus leading to a revolt , the khazar took this opportunity to raid the different themes.

Due to this the emperor left Egypt.

Early 747

Constantine had crushed the rellion , but he himself didn’t wish to attack in winter , he waited , the khazars use this time to raid the northern provinces. here the khazars slaughered

Constantine moved but it was to late , seeing this Constantine now called for all armies of the themes of the region ,and an anatolian army , also the surviviors of the armenian army , who wanted revenge .

by spring Constantine with the strategos of Iberia ,Albenia , and the new strategos of armenia moved , Constantine had 60 000 troops , the khazars retreated towards Tbilisis.

Cold, what every soldier , no matter if he was a strategos or lowly soldier , especially the ones from southern anatolia.

the only one that did not seem to suffer from the cold , was the emperor ,his sheer determination made him ignore the cold.


After 10 day chase , the armies met 1 day march from Tbilisis ,

With 10 000 men, the khazar general set up an ambush while the khans son , went forward with the rest of the army.

The khazar tactic was to attack with its main body and then feign a retreat, after which a second khazar army would descended to encircle and destroy the enemy.

Yet Constantine knew this tactic all to well , as the the avars used it , Great Heraclius used it , Constans the conqueror used it , and Constantine the pious used it .

Constantine, made this troops hold the line, this worked as the khazars returned , worried, Scouts came to say a khazar formation in the mountains , Constantine understood , he told the strategos of Armenia , the most loyal , to move .

Constantine made it look like a dessertion , even sending a "cavarly charge " against the armenians ,Constantine then charged the khazars and these retreated.

it seemed the khazar plan was going well , soon the 10 000 came down and attacked constantine , his troops began to panic , but he assured them that today they would have victory , and the ones who fougth with him in egypt belived him

soon the strategos of Aremenia came down , his cavarly charged killing many khazars , now the khazars began to panic .


the decievers had been decieved , the battle turned in to massacre , out of the 40 000 , 20 000 troops managed to escape to the north.

Mid 747

Constantine had no intention to stop , he wanted to cross the mountains, once he crossed , another khazar army met him in the caucassian gates ,Constantine decieded to charge , but was repell, the khazars deciced to wait ,as they knew Constantine has low on supplies and soon would have to retreat.

But Constantine had other plans , Constantine , spread a rumor that the byzantine navy was in the black sea to transport , these rumors reached the khazar army and a part of it moved or desserted.

do to this Constantine attack and defeated the the khazars , finaly kicking the khazars out of his territory.

he now planed his retribution against their lands.
 
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(Justinians full active duty troops were in the range of the 300-400k) was scattered defending the provinces as garrisons and patrolling the frontier to deter enemy raids
same is true here , but the themes as a good as they are , they have a disturbing tendency to revolt.

but they are necessary since rome is surrounded by enemies.

and these players would like to do more than just raid as proven by the berbers
 
Battle of Tana
747

Sources do not mention the emperors activity, ,but most likely he was preparing for his offensive, as the khazars, reentered his territory, and there were back and forth raids and counter raids, between the roman and khazar army.

As Constantine had the largest portion of the thematic army, The rest of thematic armies where not allowed to engage, but to shadow their movements, attack their supply chain, and harass the khazar army.

This worked and limited the khazar ability to push deep in to roman territory, still they did raid the northern cities.


Spring 748

Constantine was ready; he crossed the border and attacked some khazars towns but he moved towards, the khazar capital of Tana.

The inhabitants of the city and the small khazar army decided to stay and defend the city , the city was not perpetrated, so the small khazar army made, a fortified camp outside the city , to give the city time.


The emperor saw this and began to think how would they attacked, such a fortified position, Constantine sent a significant part of his infantry, as they marched towards the khazar position, meeting a shower of arrows.

To their surprise the imperial troops could not break the nomad stronghold , as sun began to set, the byzantine advance began to die with the sun, as casualties mounted up.

The khazar horse archers moved out and began to circle the troops as they attacked, the emperor sent cavalry to help, but the archers moved out.

Still, they returned 3 times. This caused a retreat of the roman attackers.


Day 2

Since the retreat, Constantine ordered a full encirclement of the camp, and the emperor sent his men to attack.

The emperor charged, as well, but when he attacked, the emperor got an arrow in the arm, His troops continued the attack, while he was treated and still, the results where the same as the previous day

The emperor got treated of his wounds and began to think how to win this battle. He didn’t sleep that much that day


Day 3.

The emperor put himself in front of his troops, raised the Sword of Heraclius and said that today they would be victorious.

The emperor himself would lead the attack, and charged against the khazars , this time the results were better , as the morale boosted the men , seeing their emperor fight side by side with them .

After some hours , the romans pushed towards the camp and got in , Soon the khazars fled , and Many were killed, in the route that followed.


Despite 5000 looses, Constantine himself, had the city undefended

As people of the city saw this they knew that they were alone, still they held out, the emperor continued to launch assaults ,and then after 3 weeks of siege, the citadel fell, the inhabitants of the city where slaughtered.

The capital was sacked and the victorious byzantine army got much booty and the soldiers received large sums of money

That chroniclers said each of the 50 000 had recollected half a kilo of treasure

But Its Dubius if this where true , but the loot was massive.

Constantine sent sent the wagons with 10 000 soldiers, move towards the black sea where the navy waited and moved the riches towards the capital.

Despite their success the war was not over, Constantine knew he had not yet defeated the main Khazar army, which like all nomad forces was not dependent on cities for supplies.
 
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Battle of Theodosiopolis and Tbilisis
Early 749

The khazars took advantage of winter, and for the first time, the armies where led by the khagan , and he set out to raid the territories of the romans, as he moved.

The khan, knew the byzantine theme army was harassing him, so he planted a trap, he divided his forces of 60 000 in 3 armies , luring the 15 000 thematic army, to fight his 20 000.

Both armies met, and here the khazars charged and later retreated.

The Byzantines followed, and felled for the trap, the khazar army soon stopped in the designated point, and charged again while the other khazars horse archers began to rain arrows as the khazars charged.

By the end they Killed about ¾ of the 15 000 , after the winter, Constantine now moved against the khan, the 3 khazar armies avoiding Constantine’s army.

Constantine threatened the Khazar communications from the khazar khagante and Iberian , this forced the khazar forces in Iberia under a khazar general to retreat from the front lines , and face the emperor in the mountains.

What followed was a spectacular Move, Constantine, divided his army of 60 000, in to 5 of 12 000 , to fool the other 2 khazar armies to not come to the aid of the third.

And then Constantine 12 000, and spread word of the size of his small army to lure the khazar armies to attack, this worked.

But the emperor was not going to become overconfident, and sent many scouts to report about the movement of his enemy’s army.

Constantine scout discovered a hidden khazar forces in ambush, and responding to this ambush Constantine used the trick of the feigning retreat during the battle.

The khazars left their cover in the mountains to chase the Byzantines, whereupon another 12 000 waited, once the trap was set, the second roman army ,chased the khazars, causing them to flee, in the fighting the khazar broke the encirclement and fled, still more than half of the khazar army was killed , but the byzantine casualties where not light as 6 000 died.


Late 749

After his victory, both romans and barbarians avoided each other, with minor engagements. then the other 2 khazar armies and the survivors of the third army united, by winter.

Both armies lead by Emperor Constantine, and khazar khagan , met near Nelkari .

After a series of maneuvers, the Byzantine army , caught up with the khagan army, which was heading towards the, little was known about the battle only that the khangan , and The emperor countered each other’s strategies the romans used many tactics ,after hours of fighting ,The battle ended in a nominal victory for the Byzantines, the Byzantines lost 14 000 men and the khazars some 9 000, the khagan withdrew in good order, and was able to retreat and continue to march south.



Mid 750 AD

The khazars continued to March and raid many cities , the main khazar army moved to the west, while the smaller raided the east , by spring Constantine moved against them having wintered in Theodosiopolis.

But the khazar Army just harassed him and had small encounters , still the emperor caught up with the khazar khagan near Tbilisis.

The khazars charged and retreated, yet the emperor told his army not to move ,seeing how they didn’t fell for the trick, the khan ordered the horse archers to the sides, and the heavy cavalry in the center.

This worked and the roman army retreated, and soon stalemate came.

During the battle the khagan saw the emperor and he saw him as well , the khazar khagan readjusted his flag lance, as Constantine prepared the sword of Heraclius.

Constantine avoided moved to avoid the lance, and he struck the face of the khazar khan , but do to the angle of attack and the force behind it, the cut was not a mortal cut , and both men lost balance.

Do to this, both men fell from their horses ,both men where now on foot, and the khan was bleeding heavily from the left cheek to his right eyebrow.


The fight was hard for both men, the lance gave the khan the reach advantage , but the blood was getting in to his eye.

During these openings Constantine tried to end the duel, but as the time went on the khazar khangan was losing his strength and having slower reactions, at the end the Constantine slayed him.

Constantine also captured the Khazar khangan flag ,as the khazar forces saw that the emperor had the khans flag, they began to route, moments later, the khazar reinforcements arrived but saw how the army was already in a massive rout they also fleed.

As the romans began to chase them, at the end 25,000 Khazars where killed , after this, the Khazar armies fled north, abandoning the attacks and raids to the empire.


751 AD

The treaty of tbislis was singed , even thougth Constantine gained no new territory, the khazar khganate was weakeaned , and the war gave many new riches towards the empire.And for 10 years the khazar had to pay yearly tribute.

Constantine returned to Constantinople a hero.
 
Battle of Oxus
Ever since the late 720s, the hard times of the Tang empire passed, as Farrukhan the great died, the tang now pushed back the western Turks and reconquered lost areas.

By 740, the tang conquest of Transoxiana was complete, the 2 great empires shared a border, conflict now became inevitable.

around the same time the sha died, and with him, all intention to attack the roman empire, as with the tang so close now declaring both war upon the Romans, would make the tang invade, the Persian doubt if they could win a war with the Chinese, but a 2 front war between the Romans and the tang was suicide.

Even though from a period due to the Berber invasions, the military reputation of the Romans was poor in the eyes of the Persians, after the devastation of the Berber army against Alexandria, and Constantine's successful campaigns, the fear of the Byzantines armies returned.


Farrukhan the Little was still regent at this time, And despite minor border raids, his skills at diplomacy avoided war with the tang, he was just buying time, as he prepared the army to fight the Chinese.

he spent the next 10 years preparing the army and the empire, for a war with the tang.

the new sha Khurshid gave the respects to Constantine upon his accession in 750 he might be a little hot heated, and some times didn't think before he acted, but he was no fool and knew that he could not risk war with the romans .

both men met in Byzantine theme of Iberia, where both sides traded gifts, here the found the extent of Constantine's victories against the Khazars, seeing the riches he brought, with peace now secured The sha moved his armies to the east.

the sha himself marched at the head of a 20 000 army him with one of his best generals, as he didn't take all of the eastern army, fearing that if he failed it wouldn't be a repeat of Dabuyas massive blunder, that resulted in the empire nearly fracturing and the lost of Mesopotamia.


Meanwhile, the Chinese had 10 000, and 5 000 Qarluq Turks, the size of the army was small, as this was not the main force, they were in the east, as the Tibetian empire had attacked.

still, this small contingent moved to the south.

in April 751

both armies met near the River Oxus.

the battle began with, an archer exchange, as the wind favored the Persians, this managed to cause mass casualties on the enemy archers.

soon the tang infantry attacked as they received volleys of arrows, as they got closer, the archers retreated behind the Persian infantry, soon they began to rain arrows again.

the Turks were not able to use their horse archers as when they tried the foot archers would respond, they also failed to outflank the Persian forces, as when they tried the Persian general ordered, the Persian cavalry to attack.

the battle continued but as casualties mounted up, seeing the futility of the fight, the Chinese general retreated.

the Persians suffered 6 000 looses, and the tang suffered 5000.

it was a not a total victory but the sha, now he set his eyes on Transoxiana, but when he moved against it he encountered the main tang force and fleed back to his territory.

still, he had gained knowledge about the tang strategies and planed his future attacks and he made sure to proclaim

that He sha Khurshid , defeated the mighty Chinese and stoped tang Conquest of the Dabuyid empire.

the sha knew that if he played his cards right he could be the ruler of a large part of Asia.
 
So does Tang Dynasty China now have more of a Westward border/presence here? How has the Eastern/Western trade dynamic changed with the Romans now having sea access to the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean?
 
So does Tang Dynasty China now have more of a Westward border/presence here? How has the Eastern/Western trade dynamic changed with the Romans now having sea access to the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean?
it has , in fact its one of the reasons why the tang has recovered from the 700 to 720 second Turkic khaganate and losing territory in the west , was do to Constans Belt ( for now the name of the Indian Ocean trade route named after Emperor Constans II as he revived it a lot) has cut their losses , so the tang recovery of the OTL from 730s to 750s is accelerated here

but the trade of the land is still valuable, the tang push west as they want more control over it .
 
well checking the next 3 chapters , to make no mistake

for the bulgarian fans , you are going to like or hate these next chapters
 
That Han Empire border-gore makes me feel sick to my stomach. Just look at how over-stretched from Mainland China that it. I feel like they'll need to start expanding more into Tibet to have cleaner borders. Such a narrow strip of land is hardly secure.

How goes things for the Romans? I feel like they should now prioritize the reconquest of Cyreneica and Carthage the breadbasket of the West. I can imagine that Italy is facing a food shortage with it being forced to rely on reduced grain shipments from Sicily instead. Constantinople likely feels it got a punch in the gut as well with Egypt now becoming a battleground for the first time in 600 years. Maybe Constantine can try to ally with the Franks to take out the Berbers. This would force them to divert troops from their far flung possessions into Hispania. Constantine can then pull a Belisarius and then stage a three front invasion. With the Franks pinning them in the Pyrrenees, the Romans can then push into Hispania with raiding parties taking the coasts as bases for their navy. With Sicily and Egypt as their staging point, they can now invade North Africa itself retaking Roman Africa. Though this means that the Empire needs to withdraw its other Eastern troops. If Constantine can play the Avars and Bulgars against each other, he could profit and use this borrowed time to retake the Western lands. I can imagine that Persia will be too busy focusing on the Chinese threat in the East to focus on the Romans at this point.
 
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