Hi...

Problem With - Cutting off a German homeland for the Jews, The German Jews will oppose it, as good Germans should.

Problem With - No Palistine for the Jews, It was the deal Britian made to get funds to continue the war.
No Deal, and Britain goes bankrupt exiting the war, and Germany wins.

Problem With - Your Middle East, British Policy is seen as even more of a BackStab by the Arabs,
Anglo Arab oil goes Bankrupt, as American Arab oil company gains even influence in the Region.

Problem With - No German/Russian Front. It was the German's and Russan's DoW's that started WW1.
With out those, it would have been just another Balkan War like the 4 ~5 others that had taken place in the previous 25 years.

Problem With - defensive-offensive policy on the eastern front, This was the German policy OTL, as they considered France the more dangerous opponent.
However the need to help A-H soaked up the Troops freed by this,and they never got to the west.

Problem With - Austria Hungary collapses from concentrated Italian and Serbian attacks.
While A-H Never gained the Territory She wanted in the Balkans, She was able to prevent both Italy and Serbia, From Advancing.
A-H's problem was the Third front against Russia. This is where the German Troops ended up.

Nazi Russia Here -- Fire Eagle, Snow Bear
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=79107
 

Hashasheen

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The problem with this idea is that the Knights Templars were a Catholic Military Order that fought in the Crusades. The Russians are Orthodox, which you point out before, and so it does seem a little unlikely that they will be named as such.
Ah so its ASB then, but i do need an SS analogue, so i'll work on it, dont expect much for the first few weeks
 

Hashasheen

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1. Problem With - Cutting off a German homeland for the Jews, The German Jews will oppose it, as good Germans should.

2.Problem With - No Palistine for the Jews, It was the deal Britian made to get funds to continue the war.
No Deal, and Britain goes bankrupt exiting the war, and Germany wins.

3.Problem With - Your Middle East, British Policy is seen as even more of a BackStab by the Arabs,
Anglo Arab oil goes Bankrupt, as American Arab oil company gains even influence in the Region.

4.Problem With - No German/Russian Front. It was the German's and Russan's DoW's that started WW1.
With out those, it would have been just another Balkan War like the 4 ~5 others that had taken place in the previous 25 years.

5. Problem With - defensive-offensive policy on the eastern front, This was the German policy OTL, as they considered France the more dangerous opponent.
However the need to help A-H soaked up the Troops freed by this,and they never got to the west.

6. Problem With - Austria Hungary collapses from concentrated Italian and Serbian attacks.
While A-H Never gained the Territory She wanted in the Balkans, She was able to prevent both Italy and Serbia, From Advancing.
A-H's problem was the Third front against Russia. This is where the German Troops ended up.

Nazi Russia Here -- Fire Eagle, Snow Bear
https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=79107
1. changing that possible to cyprus
2. they promise a homeland but make it vague ;)
3. how so?
4. changing that to extend peace a few years later. or bismark choosing russia over austria hungary.
5-6. depends on response to 4
 

Hashasheen

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Possible POD:
1914. Germany decides to focus on knocking out Russia out of the war first, and accordingly deploys most of its military there.
1915. Russia collapses and civil war begins, the peace plan between the Orthodox Church gives Russian Poland and the Ukraine to Germany. Germany forms them as client states. They support the German Empire in building armaments and delivering food, as well as troops.
1919: war is over; Germany is divided into 2 countries: Bavaria and Prussia. AH empire is divided into new states.
1920: The Orthodox Church takes power in the Russian Empire, making wide sweeping reforms, the Orthodox church steadily improves the economic conditions of the Empire, as well as forming similiar organisations in eastern and centeral europe.
1921: Russia and Japan strike a military alliance, agreeing to divide china into spheres of influence, Japanese goverment realises its small population would not be useful in mainataing the large empire they want, issue a proclomation, giving grants to people who would move to formosa, korea and manchuria, as well as goverment aid and reduced taxes, for people who have large families. Japanese population booms.

1922 to 1930: Russia increasingly swallows up East and central european states.
Japanese populations steadily grows in manchuria, formosa and Korea, and these colonies are recognised as parts of Japan, local populations are sold to the Russians, where they labor as slaves in the massive industry building. despite the depression, Russia and Japan do not take heavy hits due to isolated economies. Russian Army begans to expand, and they cast their eyes on Finland. 1930 to 1939
Rosevelt takes the presidency.
1930 to 1939: Bavaria, France, Spain become more and more communist
Spanish Civil war breaks out France, Bavaria send troops to aid the communist goverment, while britain, italy and russia aid the nationalist. Mussolini attempts to invade ethiopia at the same time, to expand his "new roman empire", emperor haile selassie sends out a general call for aid. King Ali of Arabia, King Abdullah of Palestine, and finally King Faisal of Syria respond, and sending their british trained armies to aid him, with Ali invading Somalia and Abudullah Eitrea, and Faisal in Ethopia proper. Italy is defeated and Mussolini is embaressed and vows revenge.
1939 to continued:....
 

Hashasheen

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Just one point - what happens to make Germany lose if they're able to defeat the Russians so quickly?
the combined forces of France, Britain and the US like in the OTL, since in TTL germany is at first on the defensive in the western front, with Britain not really threatned since belguim wasnt invaded yet. but when the soviets collapse, 3 things happen: one food from poland and the ukraine can feed the hungary german army. 2. they can go on the offenisve in the western front, as in OTL the flanking attack from belgium, drawing britain more deeply in the war (implications after the war from entering at a later date) and 1917 the US join in as per OTL (the shipping attacks) but since the germans have the industries in the east (ural mountains anyone?) they last longer and the blockade does not have the same level of effect as in OTL, with the German Navy engaging the British navy in several occasions, giving the brits a bloody nose, but not much more
 
Possible POD:
1914. Germany decides to focus on knocking out Russia out of the war first, and accordingly deploys most of its military there.
1915. Russia collapses and civil war begins, the peace plan between the Orthodox Church gives Russian Poland and the Ukraine to Germany. Germany forms them as client states. They support the German Empire in building armaments and delivering food, as well as troops.
1919: war is over; Germany is divided into 2 countries: Bavaria and Prussia. AH empire is divided into new states.
1920: The Orthodox Church takes power in the Russian Empire, making wide sweeping reforms, the Orthodox church steadily improves the economic conditions of the Empire, as well as forming similiar organisations in eastern and centeral europe.
1921: Russia and Japan strike a military alliance, agreeing to divide china into spheres of influence, Japanese goverment realises its small population would not be useful in mainataing the large empire they want, issue a proclomation, giving grants to people who would move to formosa, korea and manchuria, as well as goverment aid and reduced taxes, for people who have large families. Japanese population booms.

1922 to 1930: Russia increasingly swallows up East and central european states.

Well, the problems here are you don't appear to know about the Russian Orthodox Church and that it was the central pillar of Russia life - aside from the Tsar. It also wasn't exactly - tho I could be wrong, its been many years since my last class on Russian history - the most reform minded institution in Russia. Its in bed with the Aristocracy and probably has served as a break more often than not during the 19th century.

So I guess that I am at a loss at the sudden appearance of the Orthodox Church.

Also, by the 1920 the Japanese are in fact experiencing a population explosion. One of the likely reasons for the rising popularity of militarism and the snuffing out of the brief few liberal years in Japan are the huge number of young males that end up in the armed forces. This is a byproduct of modernization, longer life spans, couples having more children, larger families and fewer job oppurtunities for younger sons other than the military. So, unfortunately to contradict your POD, the Japanese by 1921 have a large population to maintain an overseas empire.
 
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hey Temporary Username,

do you want me to rename the thread? If yes, how? At the moment, it sounds like a "newbie introduces himself" thread.
 

Hashasheen

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hey Temporary Username,

do you want me to rename the thread? If yes, how? At the moment, it sounds like a "newbie introduces himself" thread.
well i am a newbie introducing my self, but it is mostly about help for the thread, so "Help an Newbie out!" would work well
 

Hashasheen

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Well, the problems here are you don't appear to know about the Russian Orthodox Church and that it was the central pillar of Russia life - aside from the Tsar. It also wasn't exactly - tho I could be wrong, its been many years since my last class on Russian history - the most reform minded institution in Russia. Its in bed with the Aristocracy and probably has served as a break more often than not during the 19th century.
its not that much of a reform, just like the communists promised reforms and it was just an autocracy that an ideology. i just thought to use the church since it was the largest religous group in russia at the time
Also, by the 1920 the Japanese are in fact experiencing a population explosion. One of the likely reasons for the rising popularity of militarism and the snuffing out of the brief few liberal years in Japan are the huge number of young males that end up in the armed forces. This is a byproduct of modernization, longer life spans, couples having more children, larger families and fewer job oppurtunities for younger sons other than the military. So, unfortunately to contradict your POD, the Japanese by 1921 have a large population to maintain an overseas empire.
large enough even for later? as in the WW2. i think even then their were groups advocating a war on china, and even then the population was like 10:1 in favor of China, so not really good later on,
 
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