Hetalia?, Why always won to expense of the Habsburg and forgiven by the CP

What Deserved Italy in a Late CP victory scenario

  • A White Peace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A little lenient peace

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • A Harsh Peace

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • A Italian Versallies

    Votes: 7 36.8%

  • Total voters
    19
(the born of this threat is the result of the discussion here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=145487 , and some personal reflexion about both geopolicts & geostrategy and Psicoculutral impact)

In fact in the Discussion about the 'possible' fate of the Victorious but extremly weak Ostreich-Magayar Kaiserreich(Austro-Hungary Empire) in a Late CP-Victory Scenario(when doesn't exist neither Zimmermar Telegram nor Luistania Incident and that means no USA entry to the war to the entente and a strategy to a quick defeat in the Spring offensive), and almost the consesus asnwer is the disolution of this and the 'Scramble of the Habsburg' and about that scenario is my discussion:

Why Italy won territories being a treachearous Nation(in fact in OTL the acusse Austro-Hungary of being the cause of war), and who a place when the Entete member was extremly draconian with the CP, with doesn't be the opposite, well with france is difficult thanks to the British but with Italy, a Nation who little power in the Entente is more credible to give them a harsh peace(like the peace who was imposse to the French after the Franco-Prussian war),

Well, that is my debate point, Italy deserved something or being punished
(please be racional, i don't want nationalism but having cold head geopolitical debate) by the Victorious CP???

side note: I found a AAR/Alternative History Scenario write by The Yogi(a very famous writter and called sometimes 'genius' and The Best WrittAAR in world) when Germany follow a 'Russia First' strategy and make the British being in Isolation when France And Russia entete fight again the Germany and Austria alliance, and later both Italy join the Entete and the Ottomans to the CP and end when both russia and Italy collapse and france was force to surrender by ironically the fear of the british of total hegemony, and the result: a very good peace to the French but a Extremly Harsh peace to both Russia and Italy)

Here you can read the ARR: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3804666#post3804666
 

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Britain can certainly get a very lenient peace for itself (at least as long as USA is not in the CPs). But if the CPs have won at all, it means they have overrun France, which it means that Britain can't do squat to avoid a harsh peace for France. And France is quite likely to get a harsh Versailles peace, given that it was the most implacable revanchist enemy of Germany before the war. As it concerns Italy, yep, it is going to get a somewhat harsh peace, but probably not so harsh as France. They don't have so bad a previous record of hostility to the CPs.

However, I would have to remark that the kind of peace Italy gets immediately after the war, and the fact that it is almost going to get some territories in the case of the Habsburg collapse, sometime later, are two very different things. The latter is going to happen because any reason Italy may have of being hostile to the German hegemony disappears with the demise of A-H, and because some former Habsburg territories can only really dealt with properly, by giving them to Italy.
 
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