Henry VIII of England

WI: He was not born until 1500 or even later. This would have made him much too young to marry Catherine of Aragon. Possible Yorkist conspiracies during his minority also?
 
WI: He was not born until 1500 or even later. This would have made him much too young to marry Catherine of Aragon. Possible Yorkist conspiracies during his minority also?

Have him born after 1500 he won't be the same.

Although if you want a York as Regent then Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk may be the best as he is only married into the York family.
 
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What you might actually see happen is after the death of Prince Arthur, of Wales, is a York rebellion in 1502.

Henry VII flees to Aragon, aboard the ship carrying the widowed, Catherine of Aragon.

Queen Elizabeth of York, is crowned as Ruling queen, by the York led government. Margaret Tudor, at 13, becomes heir presumed and is married to Henry Pole was the oldest son of Margaret Pole, 8th Countess of Salisbury (herself being the only surviving daughter of George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence, who was the younger brother of King Edward IV and King Richard III.)

Queen Elizabeth is married off again to her cousin, Edmund de la Pole, 3rd Duke of Suffolk, the last surviving heir-apparent to his maternal uncle, Richard III. He is created as Prince Edmund, Grand Duke of Suffolk, however two years into the marriage, Elizabeth dies on the, 11th July, 1505, while giving birth to a stillborn baby girl.

Margaret, who took the her mothers and husband's royal house name, four months shy of 16, is crowned Queen Margaret I of England, with Henry becoming, the first Duke of York, since the death of Richard of Shrewsbury.

List of Monarchs
Monarchs of England
1457 - 1502: Henry VII (House of Tudor)
1502 - 1505: Elizabeth I (House of York)
1505 - 1541: Margaret I (House of York)
1541 - 1542: Arthur I (House of York)
1542 - 1587: Mary I (House of York)

Monarchs of England, France, and Ireland
1587 - 1625: Francis I/III (House of Valois-Orléans-Angoulême)
1625 - 1669: Henry/ Henri VIII/III (House of V.-O.-A.)
1669 - 1680: First Civil War
1680 - 1692: Henry/ Henri IX/IV (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1692 - 1706: Henry/ Henri X/V (House of Windsor-Louvre)

Monarchs of England, France, Scotland and Ireland
1706 - 1747: William III/I (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1747 - 1766: Edward VI/I (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1766 - 1779: William IV/II (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1779 - 1801: Francis II/IV (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1801 - 1809: Second Civil War
1809 - 1827: Francis II/IV (House of Windsor-Louvre)
1827 - 1852: John II/III (House of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld)
1852 - 1876: William V/III (House of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld)
1876 - 1912: Edward VII/II (House of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld)
1912 - 1913: Henry/Henri XI/VI (House of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld)
1913 - 1919: Great World War
1919 - 1932: Charles I/XI (House of Kent-Normandy)
1932 - 1957: Charles II/XII (House of Kent-Normandy)
1957 - 1992: Charles I/XI (House of Kent-Normandy)
1992 - Present: John III/IV (House of Kent-Normandy)
 
Oh my goodness^.

Well, Margaret Tudor's match with James of Scots would likely have been scuppered as Henry might be wary of marrying off his spare to the Stewart King - maybe not, who knows.

Upon Prince Arthur's death Henry would have pressed further for his own marriage to Catherine, both to preserve the alliance with Ferdinand and hold onto her dowry. Ferdinand and Isabella would most likely be more inclined to countenance the match, but if not, a new arrangement sees Henry VII wed Joanna of Naples, send Catherine back home and hold onto what he had already received of the dowry (with the promise of more, but less than had been expected for Catherine, in due time). The new heir, Prince Henry, a mere boy of nine at his succession, is most likely betrothed at various times to Eleanor of Austria or Claude of France, and enjoys the regencies of his grandmother Margaret Beaufort and the dowager queen (most likely Joanna of Naples, who would have to fight off an unimpressed Privy Council and no doubt press for a Spanish match for him).

Catherine of York and Thomas Grey, Marquis of Dorset, are also possible Regents given their proximity to the young King.
 
Oh my goodness^.

Well, Margaret Tudor's match with James of Scots would likely have been scuppered as Henry might be wary of marrying off his spare to the Stewart King - maybe not, who knows.

Upon Prince Arthur's death Henry would have pressed further for his own marriage to Catherine, both to preserve the alliance with Ferdinand and hold onto her dowry. Ferdinand and Isabella would most likely be more inclined to countenance the match, but if not, a new arrangement sees Henry VII wed Joanna of Naples, send Catherine back home and hold onto what he had already received of the dowry (with the promise of more, but less than had been expected for Catherine, in due time). The new heir, Prince Henry, a mere boy of nine at his succession, is most likely betrothed at various times to Eleanor of Austria or Claude of France, and enjoys the regencies of his grandmother Margaret Beaufort and the dowager queen (most likely Joanna of Naples, who would have to fight off an unimpressed Privy Council and no doubt press for a Spanish match for him).

But the OP asked what if he was born 1500 or LATER. If the child was not conceived before the death of Prince Arthur, a revolt would have be formed declaring this an act of God, against the foany king of England.

So Henry VII, being a frail man, would flee. And Catherine, with out a suitor in England, she is not going to wait for an heir to be preduce from Henry VII, so will return to Aragon, with the option of marrying Francis I of France.

With Henry VII out of England, Elizabeth would be the likely ruler as she is already a queen consort and the highest ranking member of the house of York
 
You are almost saying that Henry is never born so Edmund gets named Henry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Tudor,_Duke_of_Somerset

OK not quite the dates, but the same effect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Tudor_(1503)
was born in 1503, so assuming no Henry or Edmund and this baby being born male, this is Henry

It should be noted that Queen Elizbeth died after giving birth, and given her age at birth this can't be ruled out here

Henry VII will actually be celebrating - after Arthur's death, his dynasty hung by a thread but now he has a son, it is more secure

I don't see rebellions in these few months, mostly everyone was all "rebellioned out"

What will happen though is that when he dies, his heir will be a six year old boy and it is during this Regency/Protectorship that plots will flourish and civil war return to England

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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