If she marries the Duke of Beja, given Portugal's mass die off of monarchs, would England and Portugal come into personal union eventually? Could tht ignite war with Spain, or would they not care as long as England stays Catholic?
If she marries the Duke of Beja, given Portugal's mass die off of monarchs, would England and Portugal come into personal union eventually? Could tht ignite war with Spain, or would they not care as long as England stays Catholic?
You are forgetting butterflies... A lot of things can happen but staying as close as possible to OTL just for making you happy you will have two great divergences: Philip will need a different second wife (most likely either Maria of Viseu or Kristine of Denmark but Margaret of Berry is still possible) and so he will not inherit Netherlands from his father (who will most likely go to Maria&Maximilian) and so don Carlos will likely marry Elisabeth of France and have children by her (and any son/daughter of don Carlos would inherited a united Spain and Portugal after Sebastian’s death as they are higher than Beja now King of England in the succession of Portugal)If she marries the Duke of Beja, given Portugal's mass die off of monarchs, would England and Portugal come into personal union eventually? Could tht ignite war with Spain, or would they not care as long as England stays Catholic?
Anne Boleyn would either end up being protected by a Protestant lord proclaiming the unborn child as heir (if the pregnancy doesn’t result in a miscarriage due to stress) or Boleyn will end in the Tower of London.What happens to Anne and the baby Elizabeth once she is born (likely known as Elizabeth Fitzroy) under Mary's reign? She obviously has cold feelings towards the two, but might she marry Anne off to a loyal (and Catholic) courtier and have him put his new wife and stepdaughter in a small country manor.
Also, who will end up as young Mary's husband (as she's likely married off ASAP to produce an heir)? Charles V is off the table, and I doubt Catherine wants Mary to wed a Frenchman, so might one of Catherine's Portuguese nephews end up as Mary's consort (likely co-King)
Anne Boleyn would either end up being protected by a Protestant lord proclaiming the unborn child as heir (if the pregnancy doesn’t result in a miscarriage due to stress) or Boleyn will end in the Tower of London.
Mary I of England (18/2/1516–17/11/1558) m. 1533, Duarte of Portugal, 4th Duke of Guimarães (7/10/1515-20/9/1540)
Catherine, Princess Royal (3/7/1535-) m.
Mary (12/8/1538–)
Isabella (18/1/1540–)
Edward VI (11/5/1541–) m. Mary, Queen of Scots (8/12/1542-8/2/1587)
[1] Portuguese prince, the sixth son of King Manuel I of Portugal and his wife Maria of Aragon (sister of cat here we ton
Anne Boleyn would either end up being protected by a Protestant lord proclaiming the unborn child as heir (if the pregnancy doesn’t result in a miscarriage due to stress) or Boleyn will end in the Tower of London.
On Sunday 1 June, 1533, while escorting his wife, Anne Boleyn from the Palace of Westminster towards Westminster Abbey to be crowned and anointed as Queen of England, Henry VIII, was stopped by Richard Risby, an English Catholic Franciscan friar, who shouted I have gifts for the royal couple, for Lady Anne Boleyn, he gave her beautiful bouquet of flowers,
While for the King, he had a large leather bound bible, as the King used both his hands to grab the book, Richard plunged a knife into the King's abdomen, Richard was then killed on the spot by the guards, after shouting God Save Princess Mary.
At first, the king laughed the attack off, and attempted to walk his wife towards the Abbey as planned, however it soon became clear, that the wound was deeper as his clothes became crimson with his excessive blood loss.
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Would we instead see the Portuguese style of giving daughters titles? Or would people fear having future foreign leaders having claims to their land?One note, Princess Royal only started with Mary, Princess of Orange (daughter of Charles I) because her mother was a French princess and wanted to emulate the Madam Royale title, so Catherine wouldn't have a separate special title.
I was imagining it being similar to the nobility supporting Jane Grey, the nine day queen. Some lords would think only of the small gain, plus they may be rewarded for changing their allegiances from Elizabeth to Mary.A Protestant lord proclaiming her unborn child as heir would probably be the worst situation for her, because this would just lead to a confrontation that Mary would almost certainly win (remember that the country as a whole regarded Catherine as the true queen until her death), and would make Anne and her child look like a threat to the stability of the kingdom. Her best option would probably be to avow loyalty to the new regime and hope that Catherine and Mary are in a conciliatory mood. (FWIW Catherine claimed to hold Henry no ill-will even after he'd publicly humiliated her by getting an annulment and sending her to live in semi-exile in the countryside, so it wouldn't be out-of-character for her to forgive Anne, provided that the latter didn't try to cause any further trouble.)
Thank you. He’s by no means the worst monarchy in the world or even England, however he remains a controversially divisive character, whose life has been over romantically and demonically changed.I know that there have been, to say the
least, far bloodier rulers(especially in the good old 20th Century)than Henry VIII. Probably by the standards of the 16th Century he wasn’t THAT bad(certainly Ivan The Terrible was even worse). Nonetheless, Henry remains one of the historical figures that I myself have always strongly disliked (I’ve always relished Dickens’. character-
ization of him as”that foul blot of blood and grease upon the history of England.”*) So I’m sorry but I have to say about this sce-
nario- IF ONLY!
*- Will provide citation later
A Portuguese marriage avoids picking one of the two main powers. Her husband would be set up as a high advisor and privy council member.I'm also thinking that the English want to get their monarch crowned and married fairly quickly, especially before Charles or Francis try to sink their hooks into the goings on of the crown. Ideally, it would be someone who doesn't stand to rule England in personal union with his native country if Mary is the one who gets crowned.
A Portuguese marriage avoids picking one of the two main powers. Her husband would be set up as a high advisor and privy council member.
I know that there have been, to say the least, far bloodier rulers(especially in the good old 20th Century)than Henry VIII. Probably by the standards of the 16th Century he wasn't THAT bad(certainly Ivan The Terrible was even worse). Nonetheless, Henry remains one of the historical figures that I myself have always strongly disliked (I’ve always relished Dickens’ character-
ization of him as "a blot of blood and grease upon the history of England.”*) So I’m sorry but I have to say about this scenario- if only!
I was imagining it being similar to the nobility supporting Jane Grey, the nine day queen. Some lords would think only of the small gain, plus they may be rewarded for changing their allegiances from Elizabeth to Mary.