Henry VI has a second son

A quick query, what consequences could there be of Henry VI and Margaret of Anjou having a second son, born in let's say around 1455 and named Henry for his father and grandfather, have on the war of the roses?
 
Depends on when in 1455- if it's after the First Battle of St Albans then it's too late for peace and the Wars of the Roses have already begun in earnest. The younger generation of Beauforts, Percies and Clifford's will be out for vengeance, and York, Salisbury and Neville have openly deified the king, led an attack on army that had the king in attendance, fought against an army bearing the royal standard- all acts which aren't easily forgiven.

If Marg is then out of action for several weeks/a few months (confinement was a thing, yeah? How long did it last?) in the latter half of 1455 then maybe York et al can capitalise on their victory at St Albans better- IOTL he didn't achieve much and lost the ascendancy rather quickly. Conversely, if they're not coalescing around a politically active Marg, then the younger generation of Lancastrian lords could be doing God knows what and causing trouble.
 
The first battle of St Albans was in mid to late 1455? Right?

Edit: just had a look at the wiki, the first battle happened on 22nd may, 1455.

So if Margaret is in her confinement, that naturally places the limits on her capabilities to lead. If her child is born in late 1455 would that therefore mean it would be growing up under another yorkist regency?

And I imagine if Beaufort or Northumberland had survived then perhaps Yorks ascendancy would be limited? Especially if either one had managed to escape capture.
 
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So if Margaret is in her confinement, that naturally places the limits on her capabilities to lead. If her child is born in late 1455 would that therefore mean it would be growing up under another yorkist regency?

And I imagine if Beaufort or Northumberland had survived then perhaps Yorks ascendancy would be limited? Especially if either one had managed to escape capture.

I'm not sure the child would "grow up" under another Yorkist regency, York might exercise power for the child's first few months or (at a stretch) years, but the combined machinations of Marg and the Lancastrians, York's lack of support among the nobles, and the possibility of Henry causing trouble, mean York's hold on power will be limited.

As for having Beaufort or Northumberland survive, they're more experienced and likely to be less bloodthirsty than their sons, so they might cause York trouble. But if Beaufort survives his prestige will be diminished by another military disaster, and if he only survived by running off and abandoning the King then Marg might be pissed off/less trustful of him.
 
Very true on both fronts.

I suppose York would always be keeping in mind the fact that Henry could well snap out of his funk again.
 
A quick query, what consequences could there be of Henry VI and Margaret of Anjou having a second son, born in let's say around 1455 and named Henry for his father and grandfather, have on the war of the roses?
When Warwick revolts, he (the second son) may remain in France. Margaret of Anjou was wise enough to prevent him from traveling back to England with her and Edward. This Henry may very have been the invader in 1485 instead of Henry Tudor. Richard III may have even defeated him, since he has no connections to the Stanley's, whose treachery was a major factor in Richard III's defeat.
 
Interesting you don't think Margaret would arrange for a marriage for him before they advance out? Perhaps to a Stanley?
 
Out of curiosity, it was easy enough to disparage Edward's paternity by claiming that his mother had slept with Somerset, but would they argue thr same for little Henry? I mean, yeah Henry VI is still Henry VI, but wouldn't it get a little worn out claiming a different father each time the queen gets pregnant?

Secondly, how might this affect Marguerite's position? Granted, Henry VI could live as long as Edward I, but it would seem readily apparent that as long as Henry snr keeps having breaks with reality, the potential for a child king and ergo a regency is pretty good. And no one will have any doubts about the strongest pull on that child king will be from motherdear
 
Out of curiosity, it was easy enough to disparage Edward's paternity by claiming that his mother had slept with Somerset, but would they argue thr same for little Henry? I mean, yeah Henry VI is still Henry VI, but wouldn't it get a little worn out claiming a different father each time the queen gets pregnant?

Secondly, how might this affect Marguerite's position? Granted, Henry VI could live as long as Edward I, but it would seem readily apparent that as long as Henry snr keeps having breaks with reality, the potential for a child king and ergo a regency is pretty good. And no one will have any doubts about the strongest pull on that child king will be from motherdear

I think a second time would be quite hard, considering Henry was in his right mind I believe at the time the child was conceived.

I reckon having a second child would definitely strengthen her position, though depending on how the Lancastrians manage during the early stages of the war, that might not matter so much.
 
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