Henry V, does not die in 1125

@calvin1417
We might just need a reason for *Henry VI to marry Eleanor of Aquitaine : I know pre-1900 can tend to be some kind of wild match-making sub-forum, but there's no real geopolitical or diplomatical reason to do so. The union with Louis VII was basically a way to prevent the desintegration of the duchy, by having its suzerain's resources (and authority) at disposal, something that *Henry VI obviously couldn't.

Eventually, in a situation where the House of Blois secures the english throne, you might see (if Louis still repudiates Aliénor ITTL) an union with Thibault rather than Henri for the same reasons.



Heh. While Guillaume may have a fair chance to take over Normandy proper (especially with Capetian support as he recieved IOTL, while holding the duchy is another matter), I'm not sure he could have done the same in England without clear support and legitimacy there as Henri Bauclair had enough time to set up his own bases and interests in England (heck, he did screwed Cliton out of his marriage trough agreements with Rome) whom Etienne would have beneficied in this ATL situation. Considering that Guillaume didn't have the best reputation among Anglo-Norman nobility already, and may have less so if he took Normandy, I think it would at least require some mild equivalent of the Anarchy, where Guillaume Cliton would be disserved by his lack of political power base in England, and political skills alltogether.
Indeed, his death isn't really butterflied away, or rather the causes of his death, as the rebellion in Flanders is due to his own bad management of the county, as he tried to mobilize ressources to conquer Normandy.
Really? No possible way? That's too bad.
 
Really? No possible way? That's too bad.
No way I could see, which is admittedly far from being the same : the question is what Aliénor, as duchess of Aquitaine, could hope from such an union. Aquitaine didn't had this much ties with the empire than it had with Italy (Guilhèm V was proposed the Italian kingship after Henry II's death, not the imperial title stricto sensu as it's sometimes argued), and most of its immediate diplomacy was made either witin the kingdom of France and Aquitaine's neighbours (mostly in Spain).

I would sooner expect an union with an Iberian or Italian (while, giving the difficult situation, maybe not Italo-Normans) family, keeping in mind that I doubt either could really be considered as a strong or efficient tutor for the duchy (maybe if Alfonso I did sired a son it could have been considered altough not obviously the best, or at least natural choice, as France was still the immediate geopolitical horizon for Ramnulfids), than an union with Salians.
 
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No way I could see, which is admittedly far from being the same : the question is what Aliénor, as duchess of Aquitaine, could hope from such an union. Aquitaine didn't had this much ties with the empire than it had with Italy (Guilhèm V was proposed the Italian kingship after Henry II's death, not the imperial title stricto sensu as it's sometimes argued), and most of its immediate diplomacy was made either witin the kingdom of France and Aquitaine's neighbours (mostly in Spain).

I would sooner expect an union with an Iberian or Italian (while, giving the difficult situation, maybe not Italo-Normans) family, keeping in mind that I doubt either could really be considered as a strong or efficient tutor for the duchy (maybe if Alfonso I did sired a son it could have been considered altough not obviously the best, or at least natural choice, as France was still the immediate geopolitical horizon for Ramnulfids), than an union with Salians.
So it might help the Salians if they had a better hold on Italy for an marriage with Eleanor?
 
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