Henry Trastamara loses at Montiel

OTL Henry Trastamara managed to kill Peter II of Castile at the Battle of Montiel.
What effects if Henry is the one who dies and with it his claim to the throne.
 
No interest?

Possibilities of John of Gaunt becoming King.
Impact on HYW and Bolingbroke's usurpation of the throne.
etc etc
 
Well, there's always a chance that Peter himself would father a son who lived to adulthood.

John of Gaunt would make an interesting King of Castille and Léon. I wonder if he'd be tempted to marry the Infanta Isabella (Peter's second daughter) to Bolingbroke, so as to ensure his family doesn't lose the throne in case of Constance being infertile.
 
OTL Henry Trastamara managed to kill Peter II of Castile at the Battle of Montiel.
What effects if Henry is the one who dies and with it his claim to the throne.

It accomplishes nothing.

Peter has lost the war before Montiel, his armies are made of exhausted bottom-of-the-barrel militia badly put together and the only thing keeping him in life support is the 7000 or so men that the King of Granada gave him and that were crushed at Montiel. The Enriquistas are in control of Old Castile, León, Toledo and Cordoba, in other words nearly everything that is worth controlling in the kingdom, and the English have left him.

Bear in mind that Peter didn't die in battle. Following the destruction of his army he took refuge in the castle, and while under siege he contacted DuGuesclin's French mercenaries and tried to buy them into letting him escape. DuGuesclin took the money and handed him to Henry instead, who at this point could have done anything to him. That Henry consented to fight a duel to the death with Peter was practically a gift to him.

So winning the battle is unlikely, winning the war impossible, and the best Peter can aspire at this point if he *does* win the battle is to find a way to retire to Portugal by way of Andalusia with what troops he has left and try to take the kingdom back with foreign support like he did two years earlier from Guyenne.

By the way, even if a cosmic allignment of some sort killed Henry at Montiel his supporters would simply crown his 11-year old son and after him there is still Henry's brother Tello Lord of Aguilar and Biscay and Tello's adult son Juan Téllez who IOTL would go onto die at Aljubarrota.

Oh, and finally, Peter did have sons. They just died in prison after Henry's victory. John of Gaunt has not a chance in Hell to be king of Castile.
 
It accomplishes nothing.

Peter has lost the war before Montiel, his armies are made of exhausted bottom-of-the-barrel militia badly put together and the only thing keeping him in life support is the 7000 or so men that the King of Granada gave him and that were crushed at Montiel. The Enriquistas are in control of Old Castile, León, Toledo and Cordoba, in other words nearly everything that is worth controlling in the kingdom, and the English have left him.

Bear in mind that Peter didn't die in battle. Following the destruction of his army he took refuge in the castle, and while under siege he contacted DuGuesclin's French mercenaries and tried to buy them into letting him escape. DuGuesclin took the money and handed him to Henry instead, who at this point could have done anything to him. That Henry consented to fight a duel to the death with Peter was practically a gift to him.

So winning the battle is unlikely, winning the war impossible, and the best Peter can aspire at this point if he *does* win the battle is to find a way to retire to Portugal by way of Andalusia with what troops he has left and try to take the kingdom back with foreign support like he did two years earlier from Guyenne.

By the way, even if a cosmic allignment of some sort killed Henry at Montiel his supporters would simply crown his 11-year old son and after him there is still Henry's brother Tello Lord of Aguilar and Biscay and Tello's adult son Juan Téllez who IOTL would go onto die at Aljubarrota.

Oh, and finally, Peter did have sons. They just died in prison after Henry's victory. John of Gaunt has not a chance in Hell to be king of Castile.

Well that killed that idea.
Is there any POD that could scupper the Trastamarans and put John on the thrones of Leon and Castile?
 
Well that killed that idea.
Is there any POD that could scupper the Trastamarans and put John on the thrones of Leon and Castile?

I'm not even sure that John wanted the throne. I mean, if he had been so spectacularly successful as to somehow win it he probably wouldn't have refused it, but it seems that he was more interested in Castile as a source of income. When John set off for Castile, he didn't have enough troops to realistically win the throne, he was more interested in the money settlement he could (and did) make for himself by hassling the Castilians - it was easier for them to buy him off than fight him into surrender. Before he went to Castile he'd been working ardently on having his son recognised as the heir to the English throne anyway - his focus was on England.
 
It accomplishes nothing.

Peter has lost the war before Montiel, his armies are made of exhausted bottom-of-the-barrel militia badly put together and the only thing keeping him in life support is the 7000 or so men that the King of Granada gave him and that were crushed at Montiel. The Enriquistas are in control of Old Castile, León, Toledo and Cordoba, in other words nearly everything that is worth controlling in the kingdom, and the English have left him.

Bear in mind that Peter didn't die in battle. Following the destruction of his army he took refuge in the castle, and while under siege he contacted DuGuesclin's French mercenaries and tried to buy them into letting him escape. DuGuesclin took the money and handed him to Henry instead, who at this point could have done anything to him. That Henry consented to fight a duel to the death with Peter was practically a gift to him.

So winning the battle is unlikely, winning the war impossible, and the best Peter can aspire at this point if he *does* win the battle is to find a way to retire to Portugal by way of Andalusia with what troops he has left and try to take the kingdom back with foreign support like he did two years earlier from Guyenne.

By the way, even if a cosmic allignment of some sort killed Henry at Montiel his supporters would simply crown his 11-year old son and after him there is still Henry's brother Tello Lord of Aguilar and Biscay and Tello's adult son Juan Téllez who IOTL would go onto die at Aljubarrota.

Oh, and finally, Peter did have sons. They just died in prison after Henry's victory. John of Gaunt has not a chance in Hell to be king of Castile.

Actually it is more likely for a Portuguese King to inherit Castile, there is a King of Portugal that is also likely to marry Constance - Ferdinand of Portugal after her brothers die in prison.
 
You are really sure who Peter had more o less legitimated sons who can inherit his throne? I know only about the four children who he had from his liaison or maybe marriage with Maria de Padilla: three daughters (Beatrice who became a nun, Constance and Isabella) and a son, Alfonso, who die very young (before the rivolt and only months after being regognized as Crown Prince)
 
I was thinking of Juan de Castilla y Castro in particular, son through María de Castro. His status was strange because his father repudiated his mother after his birth, so he wasn't technically a bastard. If Peter had interest in making him his heir he would have little trouble doing it. Of course, who knows what Peter wanted. I used to be somewhat sympathetic to him but the more I read about his reign the more he seems just plain nuts. I think I've compared him to Joffrey form Game of Thrones in some occasion.
 
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