Henry, Duke of Cornwall survives

Hmm interesting would a marriage to a French princess occur with Henry VIII's alliance to Charles?

Well there were talks of Mary marrying the Daphne of France, without friction between Henry and Charles.

If you want a stronger alliance, why not allow him to marry Catherine of Austria, born 14 January 1507, the sister of Charles V?
 
Well there were talks of Mary marrying the Daphne of France, without friction between Henry and Charles.

If you want a stronger alliance, why not allow him to marry Catherine of Austria, born 14 January 1507, the sister of Charles V?

Hmm true, both could be interesting, and a marriage to Rene would certainly make thinks very interesting considering her protestant leanings otl
 
Henry VIII of England (b.1491: d.1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (b.1485: d.1536) (a), Mary of Bourbon (b.1515: d.1538) (b), Sibylle of Saxony (b.1515: d.1592) (c), p. Elizabeth Blount (b.1500?) (d)

1a) Stillborn Girl (c.1510)

2a) Henry IX of England (b.1511) m. Renee of France (b.1510) (a)

1a) Margaret Tudor (b.1530)

2a) Catherine Tudor (b.1532)

3a) Edward Tudor, Prince of Wales (b.1535)

4a) Miscarriage (c.1536)

5a) Henry Tudor, Duke of York (b.1538: d.1540)

6a) Thomas Tudor, Duke of Clarence (b.1541)

7a) Mary Tudor (b.1544: d.1545)​

3a) Edward Tudor (b.1513: d.1513)

4a) Edward Tudor (b.1515: d.1515)

5a) Mary Tudor (b.1516) m. Francis III of Brittany, Dauphin of France (b.1518: d.1536) (a)

1a) Francis II of France (b.1535)

2a) Miscarriage (c.1536)

3a) Louise of Brittany (b.1537)​

6a) Stillborn Girl (c.1518)

7d) Henry Fitzroy, Earl of Richmond (b.1518: d.1536)

8c) Anne Tudor (b.1540: d.1570) m. Philip II of Spain (b.1527: d.1598) (a)

1a) Isabella Michelle of Spain (b.1555)

2a) Catherine Eugenia of Spain (b.1556)

3a) Miscarriage (c.1558)

4a) Philip, Prince of Asturias (b.1560: d.1569)

5a) Charles, Prince of Asturias (b.1562: d.1577)

6a) Maria Magdalena of Spain (b.1563: d.1566)

7a) Miscarriage (c.1567)

8a) Philip III of Spain (b.1570)​

9c) Miscarriage (c.1541)

10c) Edmund Tudor, Duke of York (b.1543: d.1570) m. Catherine Grey (b.1540) (a)

1a) John Tudor (b.1560)

2a) Edward Tudor (b.1563)

3a) Cecily Tudor (b.1565)

4a) William Tudor (b.1568: d.1569)​
 
Henry VIII of England (b.1491: d.1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (b.1485: d.1536) (a), Mary of Bourbon (b.1515: d.1538) (b), Sibylle of Saxony (b.1515: d.1592) (c), p. Elizabeth Blount (b.1500?) (d)

1a) Stillborn Girl (c.1510)

2a) Henry IX of England (b.1511) m. Renee of France (b.1510) (a)

1a) Margaret Tudor (b.1530)

2a) Catherine Tudor (b.1532)

3a) Edward Tudor, Prince of Wales (b.1535)

4a) Miscarriage (c.1536)

5a) Henry Tudor, Duke of York (b.1538: d.1540)

6a) Thomas Tudor, Duke of Clarence (b.1541)

7a) Mary Tudor (b.1544: d.1545)​

3a) Edward Tudor (b.1513: d.1513)

4a) Edward Tudor (b.1515: d.1515)

5a) Mary Tudor (b.1516) m. Francis III of Brittany, Dauphin of France (b.1518: d.1536) (a)

1a) Francis II of France (b.1535)

2a) Miscarriage (c.1536)

3a) Louise of Brittany (b.1537)​

6a) Stillborn Girl (c.1518)

7d) Henry Fitzroy, Earl of Richmond (b.1518: d.1536)

8c) Anne Tudor (b.1540: d.1570) m. Philip II of Spain (b.1527: d.1598) (a)

1a) Isabella Michelle of Spain (b.1555)

2a) Catherine Eugenia of Spain (b.1556)

3a) Miscarriage (c.1558)

4a) Philip, Prince of Asturias (b.1560: d.1569)

5a) Charles, Prince of Asturias (b.1562: d.1577)

6a) Maria Magdalena of Spain (b.1563: d.1566)

7a) Miscarriage (c.1567)

8a) Philip III of Spain (b.1570)​

9c) Miscarriage (c.1541)

10c) Edmund Tudor, Duke of York (b.1543: d.1570) m. Catherine Grey (b.1540) (a)

1a) John Tudor (b.1560)

2a) Edward Tudor (b.1563)

3a) Cecily Tudor (b.1565)

4a) William Tudor (b.1568: d.1569)​

Interesting, what in your mind causes Henry to remarry?

And say he dies in 1527 what consequences could that have then?
 
Henry will remarry for sure with only one surviving son. He can not risk the future of the dynasty if something happened to hit Prince of Wales
 
Henry will remarry for sure with only one surviving son. He can not risk the future of the dynasty if something happened to hit Prince of Wales

Hmm true, but will he remarry with Catherine still alive?

And if he dies before she does, what then?
 
Hmm true, but will he remarry with Catherine still alive?

And if he dies before she does, what then?

In this scenario he would never divorce Catherine, it would put the succession of the son he does have at risk.

Now he could 'encourage' Catherine to ask to 'retire' from her marriage by becoming a Nun (while providing a comfortable lifestyle befitting her station as the former wife of a King). This had been done before in other countries, and was actually an option proposed to Catherine in RL but she rejected it.

But if she did that then the marriage would be dissolved once she took her 'Holy Vows' and Henry could marry once more, and their children would still be legitimate and keep their spots in the succession.

Actually looking at this makes me wonder why the hell Catherine didn't take this option in RL, it would spared her and Mary A LOT of heartache.
 
Actually looking at this makes me wonder why the hell Catherine didn't take this option in RL, it would spared her and Mary A LOT of heartache.

Pride I would presume.

When Wolsey, on the advice of Campeggio (I think) took the plan to Catherine she flat out refused saying "God never called me to a nunnery". I think it was jointly pride, plus her dislike of Wolsey, plus the fact that she didn't have the security of being the mother of the future king.
 
When Wolsey, on the advice of Campeggio (I think) took the plan to Catherine she flat out refused saying "God never called me to a nunnery". I think it was jointly pride, plus her dislike of Wolsey, plus the fact that she didn't have the security of being the mother of the future king.

Hmm true, and ifnhenry dies a year before her then things would be very interesting
 
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