Help with a POD :)

To split Britain in two like that, have the 1066 Norwegian invasion of England work by having Harald Hadrada beat Harold Godwinson in the Battle of Stamford Bridge

Then the 1066 Norman invasion of England three months later is also successful

The Norwegians and the Normans split the island between them: the Norwegians base their capital in York, the Normans base their capital in London

Would this also work with Jutland (Angeln) being part of England? I mean, would that be a possible result of this POD too? If so, would you know how?

EDIT - Oh, and a note is that England on the map actually isn't, like, Danish, but Jutland is English. I know, kinda obvious, but just pointing that out to be sure you're aware of that.
 
Rollo wins the battle of Chartres

Would this also work with Jutland (Angeln) being part of England? I mean, would that be a possible result of this POD too? If so, would you know how?

EDIT - Oh, and a note is that England on the map actually isn't, like, Danish, but Jutland is English. I know, kinda obvious, but just pointing that out to be sure you're aware of that.

Nearly, but you'd need another POD. Instead of Rollo losing the battle of Chartres in 911, he wins and carries on to conquer what is IOTL the Duchy of Normandy. He then sues for peace with Charles the Simple and the Southern Norse Land is born (in contradistinction to the original North Land, present-day Norway)

Then, when William conquers the South of England in 1066, the result is a Southern Norse Land consisting of the South of England, the Duchy of Normandy, a strip of land extending thru modern-day Belgium and Holland into Jutland, and Jutland (modern-day Denmark).

Incidentally, you may be on the verge of butterflying away the English language, since at this point all of England is governed by Vikings of one stripe or another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Normandy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Simple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Chartres_(911)
 
Nearly, but you'd need another POD. Instead of Rollo losing the battle of Chartres in 911, he wins and carries on to conquer what is IOTL the Duchy of Normandy. He then sues for peace with Charles the Simple and the Southern Norse Land is born (in contradistinction to the original North Land, present-day Norway)

Then, when William conquers the South of England in 1066, the result is a Southern Norse Land consisting of the South of England, the Duchy of Normandy, a strip of land extending thru modern-day Belgium and Holland into Jutland, and Jutland (modern-day Denmark).

Incidentally, you may be on the verge of butterflying away the English language, since at this point all of England is governed by Vikings of one stripe or another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Normandy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Simple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Chartres_(911)

But what if the English native people revolt a few years later? Would I be able to save the English language and culture with that? In that way, perhaps England and Jutland could stay one country (Jutland being full of English people due to migration after the formation of that Southern Norse Land), but the English culture could be preserved. Good idea or not?

Also, is it possible to have the Netherlands (as on the map in this thread's first post) exist with this POD? I assume it would be possible if the Southern Norse Land breaks apart early enough. Otherwise, it would be too "Norsified", so that the Dutch/Netherlandic culture over there would vanish, which I would like to prevent.
 
I would think that this early most of the German cultures while not being the same would still be very similar, so the long term outcomes might not be to different.
England and South Norseland would probably seem more what we thing of as Scandanavian
 
I would think that this early most of the German cultures while not being the same would still be very similar, so the long term outcomes might not be to different.
England and South Norseland would probably seem more what we thing of as Scandanavian

OK thanks!

On another note, would anyone happen to have a decent basemap for this? I'm gonna look for it soon, but if anyone's got one, that'd be great.
 
Hey! So, I was wondering if anyone would want to help me a bit with getting a TL out of this? Or at least helping getting me started? Or, if someone wants to, it'd be possible as well to make the TL together?

Anyone?
 
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