Help on a United States of North America TL

Okay, so I wish to start a timeline based on a POD that would eventually end in the American Colonies to rebel from Britain, this would be the original thirteen, plus the ones up north.

First: Is this plausible?

Second: If so, what would a good POD be for it? I was thinking a worse Seven Years' War/French and Indian War, forcing Parliament to tax the colonies even more?

Third: How likely would it be for Mexico to "join" in later (Not really a necessity. People were quite anti-Catholic, so I'm pretty sure Mexico wouldn't have been outright annexed).

The search isn't working for me right now, and I could have sworn I've seen a TL on this around on the board. Point me to it, if you will. :)
 
The United States of Ameriwank and the United States of the Americas and Oceania are two such TLs that have more then Thirteen Original States
 
The United States of Ameriwank and the United States of the Americas and Oceania are two such TLs that have more then Thirteen Original States

Thanks, but where could I find the United States of the Americas and Oceania? The search function isn't working for me right now. :)
 
Nova Scotia may join the Thirteen, though i'm unsure of the POD. It may well have butterflies leading to Quebec being taken in 1776. Also, I guess that in such scenario Florida migh be American from the beginning (while Spain would keep the Bahamas, up for American takeover later).
 
if the french in quebec were even more anti-british, the original intent of the americans to stir up rebellion there when they invaded might work
 

Eurofed

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Third: How likely would it be for Mexico to "join" in later (Not really a necessity. People were quite anti-Catholic, so I'm pretty sure Mexico wouldn't have been outright annexed).

:mad: Arrgghhh!!! Anti-Catholicism was nowhere the stumbling block with annexing "All of Mexico". 18th-19th century US Anti-Catholicism gets ridicolously overestimated on this board to a quite annoying degree.

The issue the US had about totall annexation of Mexico was a) the South had recist issues with making the Mexican Natives and mixed-bloods US citizens b) the North feared the expansion of "slave power". Please note that the North could have been bought over by concessions elsewhere, and that the South only had real concerns about annexing the heavily-populated central-southern Mexico, they had no real problem with annexing the less populated northern Mexico. Actually it did not happen just because 1) the US diplomat sent to negotiate the treaty went rogue and signed a more lenient treaty than President Polk meant to 2) the motion to get a more extensive annexation nonetheless failed in Congress. Both events can be easily butterflied away.

To get all of Mexico annexed, you need a less exclusionary attitude of the South towards Natives and mixed-bloods, and a North less concerned towards expansion of slave power in Mexico. In USAO, both of these happen because the Iroquois confederation, like Canada, joins the Patriots in the ARW, which molds American culture as a whole to be much more assimilationist towards "civilized" natives (the Trail of Tears does not happen, the Five Civilized Tribes but the Seminoles are assimilated in Southern society instead). And because there are many more free states thanks to US Canada and US Gran Colombia-Peru (the latter because this USA is both much stronger and more expansionist by 1812, thanks to US Canada, a longer Federalist dominance, which builds up the US military preparedness, and the Quasi-War becoming a successful war with France. So they expand the war of 1812, which becomes a decisive US victory, to an intervention in the Spanish-American wars of independence, which pushes the Libertadores to a pro-US Pan-American stance).
 
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JJohnson

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Here's my timeline: The New World

It posits a different Quebec Act making it much easier for Patriot sympathies to grow in Quebec and in Nova Scotia, drawing them into the Union.
 
:mad: Arrgghhh!!! Anti-Catholicism was nowhere the stumbling block with annexing "All of Mexico". 18th-19th century US Anti-Catholicism gets ridicolously overestimated on this board to a quite annoying degree.

The issue the US had about totall annexation of Mexico was a) the South had recist issues with making the Mexican Natives and mixed-bloods US citizens b) the North feared the expansion of "slave power". Please note that the North could have been bought over by concessions elsewhere, and that the South only had real concerns about annexing the heavily-populated central-southern Mexico, they had no real problem with annexing the less populated northern Mexico. Actually it did not happen just because 1) the US diplomat sent to negotiate the treaty went rogue and signed a more lenient treaty than President Polk meant to 2) the motion to get a more extensive annexation nonetheless failed in Congress. Both events can be easily butterflied away.

To get all of Mexico annexed, you need a less exclusionary attitude of the South towards Natives and mixed-bloods, and a North less concerned towards expansion of slave power in Mexico. In USAO, both of these happen because the Iroquois confederation, like Canada, joins the Patriots in the ARW, which molds American culture as a whole to be much more assimilationist towards "civilized" natives (the Trail of Tears does not happen, the Five Civilized Tribes but the Seminoles are assimilated in Southern society instead). And because there are many more free states thanks to US Canada and US Gran Colombia-Peru (the latter because this USA is both much stronger and more expansionist by 1812, thanks to US Canada, a longer Federalist dominance, which builds up the US military preparedness, and the Quasi-War becoming a successful war with France. So they expand the war of 1812, which becomes a decisive US victory, to an intervention in the Spanish-American wars of independence, which pushes the Libertadores to a pro-US Pan-American stance).

Ah, looks like I was wrong. Thanks! :)
 
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