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Christianity as 'designed' by Paul of Tarsus certainly was not designed for nomadic goat herders.

All of its presumptions were from Judaism. Apart from relaxing the laws on diet and circumsion what was different from contemporary Judaism that was designed / invented for nomadic goat herders?
 
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this point, Plato's forms idea, was that every form on earth had a perfect form which they were trying to achieve. St. Augustine of Hippo, did just warp these idea in his writings either. There is also a reason, why many Greek cities, such as Corinth were some of the first to develop Christian communities. I am sure we will not be able to come to an agree me on this, so as I said at the start, I will have to respectfully disagree with your view.

The reason Corinth and some other Greek cities had early churches was because that was where the Diaspora settled. Just like Rome, Alexandria, Antioch and others.

To suggest Plato was a proto Christian is absurd, or do christians support the polkitical philosophy of the Republic?
 
The reason Corinth and some other Greek cities had early churches was because that was where the Diaspora settled. Just like Rome, Alexandria, Antioch and others.

To suggest Plato was a proto Christian is absurd, or do christians support the polkitical philosophy of the Republic?

While that may be true dealing with the conversion of peter. Paul converted non-Jews, and he had large amounts of success. Also, I would argue, you are overestimating the size of the diaspora population, because so many where killed by Rome.

Then also, I have talked with a number of professors who have argued that Plato would of likely been a early Christian had he lived in the time of Christ. I would argue, that they are looking at his metaphysics and not his political philosophy, but I am sure there were elements which also agreed with the Republic. Well, that is my last statement on this topic.
 
While that may be true dealing with the conversion of peter. Paul converted non-Jews, and he had large amounts of success. Also, I would argue, you are overestimating the size of the diaspora population, because so many where killed by Rome.

The earliest sources of Paul of Tarsus are from the New Testament, partially authored by himself, which makes all the information we have on him and his achievements highly partisan to say the least. Whatever the number of converts he made in his lifetime, the peoples he alledgedly preached to, such as the Hellenes and the Galatians, were a proud and highly sophisticated people. They would have been highly faithful and confident in their Gods they worshipped just as the Jews and Christians were faithful in their god. I don't think they just merely crowded around this travel worn stranger and meekly listened to him preach without taking his words with a pinch of salt. At worst, many of those that heard him preach might have been highly offended, not only that this stranger was quite conceited to believe that he knew better than them of the world, but that he would openly insult their gods or deny their existence.

Also, from the writings of Celsus, who was believed to be a platonist, the Christian groups had always maintained themselves as a secretive sect. He said that they would find new followers from amongst the criminal underworld, runaway slaves, the homeless, and even a few rebellious adolescents. It was convenient for them to recruit people from the lower order of society, the destitute and the vilified, giving them shelter and food. Basically using their kindness as a way to manipulate their gratitude and turn them into faithful followers. With means such as these, it might be easy to convert a few people.

Then also, I have talked with a number of professors who have argued that Plato would of likely been a early Christian had he lived in the time of Christ. I would argue, that they are looking at his metaphysics and not his political philosophy, but I am sure there were elements which also agreed with the Republic. Well, that is my last statement on this topic.

They may be professors, but that doesn't mean they're infallible. I might be a bit presumptious myself, but if Plato was a comtemporary of Yeshuah Bar Yussef/Jesus Christ, then he might probably be a bit suspicious of him as well. Again, the idea that the students of Plato were monotheists or proto-christians is just a myth created by christian scholars who wanted to lend their religion some kind of legitimacy. Thats the truth as I see it, and I'm not sorry for being honest.
 

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Alright me and my friends have decided on a contest on who can make the best world with hellenion(greek gods) as the main religion but i sort of want it to be a british elements in it. so i have no idea were to put the POD or anything im having a major block.:confused:

It's Hellenistic.
 
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