Hearts of Iron III

karl2025

wilcoxchar said:
1. I haven't noticed any obvious errors in the English.
2. The Paradox AI is pretty much the best I've seen for games with this level of strategy. Especially compared to the Total War AI...
3. Every game has bugs at the initial release. They don't have an infinite amount of betatesters and an infinite amount of time to find bugs you know. ;)
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I like the Paradox games, but they do have the errors he was talking about. I've seen a bunch of grammatical errors (you can usually figure it out, nothing major). I have no problems with the AI really, I'm used to worse. As for bugs... Well, every game has them at the release nowadays (Except Blizzard, god bless them) but they get lazy with the expansions. Like in Victoria Revolutions they have the event for the Great Depression, but it doesn't do anything. They have very few events for the doomsday expansion, after 1945. And when Armageddon expanded HoI2 to the 60's they never bothered changing the deathdates for events.

The games are still fun, but I expect more.
 

Prem_Rack

V-J said:
I'll buy it when they get someone who understands basic English to localise their games.

And the AI. And the 10,000 bugs it will have at the start which will render the game playable only six months after the official release. And so on and so on.
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The latest Paradox games tends to have about as much bugs as any major relase these days. Hell, maybe even less given the ridiculous amounts of problem with Fallout3, Empire Total War and Football Manager 2009 (the latest new-ish games I've played). I will grant you that CK, HoI1 and Victoria were horribly bugged at begining but even since HoI2 they much improved. AI is usually quite ok. On language issues, I won't comment, since I'm a non-native speaker who bastardize English on daily basis :)
 

TFLGuitar

hiiamthief said:
Just saying that the demo has been released. Anyone played it? Anygood?
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Downloaded and installed late last night. I played for only about a half hour but liked it a lot. They basically improved every aspect of the game. Obviously there were some minor bugs and annoyances but nothing too crazy.
 

Zyzzyva

TFLGuitar said:
Downloaded and installed late last night. I played for only about a half hour but liked it a lot. They basically improved every aspect of the game. Obviously there were some minor bugs and annoyances but nothing too crazy.
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A) Where is it?
B) Please for the love of God tell me it's ported to mac.
 

Prem_Rack

hiiamthief said:
Just saying that the demo has been released. Anyone played it? Anygood?
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Needs optimalization as of now it runs rather slowly for most people. There were some rather glaring bugs in the scenario setup (most countries start at lower tech level that they should, most visible in case of Germany that doesn't have the techs that reduce orders delay, so you have to wait about 6 days (!) to get your orders followed.
It also seems rather overhelming, and again the scenario choosen (Sep 1939 with UK, France, Germany or Poland) make the things worse.
Also, map sucks.
 

Solomaxwell6

Banned
Prem_Rack said:
It's four countries from Sep 1939 to Jan 1940. Also, you can't save.
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Bleh. I figured it was fairly safe to assume it wasn't anything near the full game, but that's not enough for me. I'm going to sit it out until the full game is released, unless I just download it to make sure it doesn't set my laptop on fire.
 

Workable Goblin

Solomaxwell6 said:
Bleh. I figured it was fairly safe to assume it wasn't anything near the full game, but that's not enough for me. I'm going to sit it out until the full game is released, unless I just download it to make sure it doesn't set my laptop on fire.
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Considering the sheer complexity of the game, it's probably good that it's so limited. It's useful for testing your machine and getting used to the interface and what not, at least.
 
Lord Insane

Lord Insane

TFLGuitar said:
Downloaded and installed late last night. I played for only about a half hour but liked it a lot. They basically improved every aspect of the game. Obviously there were some minor bugs and annoyances but nothing too crazy.
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Haven't tested it, but the Paradox mod boards have noted one quite annoying thing they hope will be changed for the full version, that is not necessarily a bug- you apparently can't see other nations' ministers.
 
Kome

Kome

LordInsane said:
Haven't tested it, but the Paradox mod boards have noted one quite annoying thing they hope will be changed for the full version, that is not necessarily a bug- you apparently can't see other nations' ministers.
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I could see it now:
Stalin: Assassinating Hitler wont work.
Churchill: Why not?
Stalin: Because no one ever seen the SOB and for all we know he could be a two headed cat.

I hate file planet im 35 in line to download this game,its taking bloody forever!:mad:
 
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Solomaxwell6

Banned
hiiamthief said:
I could see it now:
Stalin: Assassinating Hitler wont work.
Churchill: Why not?
Stalin: Because no one ever seen the SOB and for all we know he could be a two headed cat.

I hate file planet im 35 in line to download this game,its taking bloody forever!:mad:
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You could always see about torrenting it. I'm sure it's legal, since the demo is free anyway. If it's not, then there's no way in hell Paradox would pursue it, so you wouldn't get in any trouble, anyway.
 

Parsleymagnet

Speaking of piracy, from what I heard there was a goof with the release of the demo. Apparently fileplanet got a bit mixed up and the link to download the demo led to the full game for a short time. As a result, a few dozen people downloaded the full game before it was fixed.

Anyway, playing through the demo, the amount of choices is just overwhelming. Especially in regards to production. I spent half an hour at the beginning of the scenario, just inspecting the interface and different tabs. This'll take a while to get used to.:p
 

Extrasolar Angel

Banned
Is it true that as per EU III they threw history out of the window and Swiss join the Allies just like that and so on ? In other words if you start in 1936 by 1939 you have nothing resembling the 1939 we know.
 

wilcoxchar

Extrasolar Angel said:
Is it true that as per EU III they threw history out of the window and Swiss join the Allies just like that and so on ? In other words if you start in 1936 by 1939 you have nothing resembling the 1939 we know.
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Not that I know of, no. Many of the important events have been replaced by decisions so you actually have to work to try to emulate history instead of having it fall into your lap, but I haven't seen anything very egregious after playing the demo.

Then again, EU3 didn't throw out history either. It just moved to simulate the context and processes that occurred during the time period to prompt the events instead of simulating the specific events themselves. While I admit that there were some flaws with it, it was still good and shouldn't be disparaged just because they removed most of the events.
 

Extrasolar Angel

Banned
EU III was a random simulator with historic names attached and besides that had nothing to do with history sadly. Certain Mods tried to restore some of the historic aspects, but still... I regret I bought it.

Anyway-I saw a video of the demo and the person commented that in the game he saw within the four months Finns and Swiss joining the Allies. His comment was"think what will hapen if you start in 1936 and you play to 1939".
 
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