GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
This article is saying, like anything it has pluses and minuses. Please don't go crazy regarding how you do it.
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Healthier Food Culture in America
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GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
And again, it just staggers me that we really don't know which is better,
low-fat or low-carb ? ? ?
low-fat or low-carb ? ? ?
Calories in calories out, that's scientifically how things work. Something like excess sugar is bad because it encourages snacking rather that suppressing you appetite.
Toraach
Banned
The US becoming a socialist state would have certainly helped with creating a "healthly food culture". People wouldn't be able to buy all those unhealthly big ammounts of food, and would fight in lines for any scraps which the socialist economy threw to stores. They would hapily eat dairy products (if available), potatoes, etc. Probalby only vinegar would be in shops all the time.
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I’m from England and one thing I’ve noticed on holidays to America is that there are very few small grocery shops that sell fresh produce except in places like New York or New Orleans. In the UK they’re quite common with a good range of fruit and veg and fresh meat. You have to go to a large out of town store in most places I’ve been to to get fresh produce, and the choices in service stations are abysmal (they’re not great in the UK but there are some healthier choices).
I’ve been to Las Vegas (good restaurants, not over big portions and a lot of healthy choices in restaurants), New Orleans (healthy food in restaurants but massive portions), New York (excellent choice, healthy food available, portion sizes ok, but stupidly expensive in Manhattan (Queen’s however.....)), Orlando (all chain restaurants, big portions and not many healthy options), Miami (nice restaurants at the Marina by the port), Carnival Cruise from Miami (food was dire) and Westerley RI (surprisingly the worst, only three restaurants along the entire beachfront, everything fried and massive portions. We ended up doing BBQ’s where we were staying (they had fixed gas BBQ’s) with salad and gravy).
I also find American bread far too sweet (what do they put in it?) and try to get rye bread, if not the 12 grain stuff with no HFCS in it. Also cheese product seems to be added to almost everything, which seeing as I dislike cheese, especially what passes for it in America, is a bit of a problem at times.
I’ve been to Las Vegas (good restaurants, not over big portions and a lot of healthy choices in restaurants), New Orleans (healthy food in restaurants but massive portions), New York (excellent choice, healthy food available, portion sizes ok, but stupidly expensive in Manhattan (Queen’s however.....)), Orlando (all chain restaurants, big portions and not many healthy options), Miami (nice restaurants at the Marina by the port), Carnival Cruise from Miami (food was dire) and Westerley RI (surprisingly the worst, only three restaurants along the entire beachfront, everything fried and massive portions. We ended up doing BBQ’s where we were staying (they had fixed gas BBQ’s) with salad and gravy).
I also find American bread far too sweet (what do they put in it?) and try to get rye bread, if not the 12 grain stuff with no HFCS in it. Also cheese product seems to be added to almost everything, which seeing as I dislike cheese, especially what passes for it in America, is a bit of a problem at times.
GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
I think things like big jolts of sugar increase the risk for later-in-life diabetes. I read that with high-fructose corn syrup, if a person exercises a lot, it's the same as regular sugar. But if a person is older and more sedentary, it's not.
GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
This is just too funny, the lap of luxury and yet it's not! If you wish, please share some of the details of the Carnival Cruise food.
And American food companies put sugar in bread, and I think often high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS).
I was expecting something really nice for meals. The first two nights we went to the restaurant (I’d booked anytime seating) and were really disappointed with bland lukewarm food. I suppose when you’re trying to feed 4,000 people it’s not easy but I was expecting far better. The luxury is bit fake and plastic as well.
After that we went to the buffet, which was marginally better, but we’re not really buffet fans. The only decent meal we had on board was when we paid $50 each extra to go to the steak restaurant on board. I had a 7oz fillet mignon which was divine and my wife had a 24oz T-bone which she couldn’t finish. The starters and dessert were nice as well, and a better choice of wine to buy.
The one thing I would say is that food was available at the buffet, pizza shop and English (it’s really not) fish’n’chip shop 24/7 and I was appalled at Americans piling their plates up and leaving half (or more) of their food, then going back an hour later and doing the same. Overeating and dreadful food waste. Disgusting.
marathag
Banned
But can they serve a meal thru the drivethru every 2 minutes for as long as customers pull up?
Fast Food, remember
History Learner
Banned
Please tell me where this magical land is, because I'm tired of having to make do with McChickens for lunch.
Scientifically, it appears that a major effect of sugar consumption is it increases your appetite and makes you hungrier faster. This is obviously not good for many reasons.
It should be noted that the sugar industry is very insidious in their advocacy and lobbying--they followed the Big Tobacco gameplan and even had/have some tobacco lobbyists working for them. Unlike Big Tobacco who generally failed at getting their "expert" doctors on the boards of cancer and cardiology groups, Big Sugar at one point actually had "experts" on the boards of major dental associations as well as had their doctors publishing their research about heart disease, diabetes, and obesity in top medical journals.
Not as cheap as a McChicken or Subway's value meals, but if you live in/near a decent-sized metro area (500K+) your city probably has a few places like that.
History Learner
Banned
Subway has cheap food there too? Unfortunately, the closest major city to me is Knoxville.
True.
As I mentioned in another thread, you want to avoid the triple whammy of high calories, low nutritional value, and low satiation. You can get away with two of those, but not all three.
Little Debbie's are a good example. No nutrition, 300 calories, and you can eat 2 and still not be full - and worse, you've used up almost a third of your daily calorie budget.
Whereas I occasionally get a burger and mini Blizzard for lunch at Dairy Queen. 750 calories total - a bit high for lunch, but I don't get hungry before dinner and as long as I don't go overboard with the other two meals I'm OK.
GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
Often it can throw me for a loop when I've feel like I've paid full admission for the whole thing, and the business is still trying to upsell me! Other times, I can laugh it off. And in this case, it sounds like it worked out very fortunately, and I'm glad your wife and you were able to have a very nice meal.
PS and I'm still wondering why my United States has so few good curry houses!
People seem to either love or hate Carnival. I've heard about the food not being great, compared to other lines. Actually, what comes to mind thinking of the food on a Carnival ship is precisely what the stereotypical American restaurant serves: huge portions of rather unhealthy food. Like restaurants, cruise lines vary in the quality of food (but there's always high quantities). Still, I'd expect at least standard restaurant-quality food from all the lines, so it's too bad your experience was disappointing.
Even "all-inclusive" cruises can easily cost $1000 a person more than the ticket price; it's the ultimate upsell. If it's not all-inclusive, you invariably get unlimited free food but pay for all drinks except tap water, fake juice and ordinary coffee.
At restaurants the staff are usually required to try to upsell; I find it really annoying. Especially when they offer expensive addons without saying the price, or when they offer something that sounds like it might be free but isn't. I suspect upsell items have a big profit margin... after all, a few sauteed mushrooms can't possibly cost $6.
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GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
one method is to look hard for doctors or scientists who tend to believe a certain way any how, and then really promote them.
And the sales and business-oriented management of the company can then get on with their normal activities. And it really helps their conscience to be able to throw up their hands and say it's all a scientific controversy.
GeographyDude
Gone Fishin'
And I think we can add to these three that there's also the aspect whether a meal is mostly complex carbohydrates which break down more slowly, or simple carbohydrates where you body gets a big jolt all at once which I understand is a risk factor for diabetes. Most people still don't get this acquired diabetes, but some do.
And we might well be able to add a fifth, sixth, and seventh aspect as well. I take the view that biological signaling is usually pretty complicated indeed.
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