Have European/Near Eastern people ever faced oppression in history? (Ver. 2)

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The previous thread: Have European/Near Eastern people ever faced oppression, persecution and genocide in history? was supposed to discuss about events in history where people from Europe/Near East or people with ancestry ultimately from Europe/Near East faced forms of oppression and discrimination. It was an interesting thread with its own style and purpose of learning history.

Instead, the whole point of the discussion went null when users started thinking the thread is about 'white (racial category) ever faced oppression and discrimination' and race-based politics. I locked the thread because I was unwilling to necro the thread as well with the racial topics, and the fact the thread has run its course.

From that locked thread, I collected several examples for the posters to discuss about as well add their own examples of oppression/discrimination of European/Near Eastern peoples.
* Cromwellian conquest of Ireland (1649-1653)
* Corsairs and the Barbary Slave Trade (16th-18th century)
* Mongolian invasion of Eastern Europe (13th century)
* 1804 Haiti massacre
* Armenian Genocide (1915-1923)
* Greek Genocide (1914-1923)
* Assyrian Genocide (1914-1925)
* Great Irish Famine (1845-1849)
* Boer Concentration camps during the Second Boer War (1900-1902)
* The Holodomor (1932-1933)
* Land reforms under Robert Mugabe
* Ottoman rule in the Balkans
* Jewish quotas in American universities
* March 14, 1891 lynchings
* Moorish rule of Iberia (Al-Andalus) (711-1492)
* Internment of Allied POWs by Japan during WW2
* Punic Wars
* Siege of Fort Zeelandia in Formosa by Koxinga (1661-1662)
* Communist repressions in the Warsaw Pact (1955-1991)
* Charlemagne's massacres of the Saxons
* The Great Purge by Stalin (1936-1938)
* Reconstruction-era terror campaigns of the KKK and other revanchist movements
* Discrimination of Jews, Irish, Italians, Spanish and Eastern Europeans
* The Holocaust (1941-1945)
* Pre-emancipation Russian serfdom (1723-1861)
* Viking slave raids on Britain and Ireland and slave markets in Russia.
* Tartar raids on Ruthenian duchies
* Tamerlane's massacres of Assyrians, Georgians and Armenians
* Transportation of convicts to Australia in the 18th century
* Deportation of the Chechens and Ingush
* Circassian Genocide (19th century)
* War in the Vendee (1793)
* Reign of Terror (June 1793-July 1975)
* Persecution of the Cagots

This is the new list for the thread, based on the previous threads and my previous lurking for history. Have fun with the new thread discussing history and other related activities.
 
Seems like it's impossible to have any kind of meaningful list. If we include "Pre-emancipation Russian serfdom (1723-1861)" in the list, can we also include all of Feudalism? Do we include debt bondage? If we include "Mongolian invasion of Eastern Europe (13th century)", do we include all wars with elements of subjugating, raiding, slashing and burning? Because that's most of them. If we include "Siege of Fort Zeelandia in Formosa by Koxinga (1661-1662)", do we include all sieges that turn ugly? Because, again, that's almost all of them. Or is there a certain threshold of terribleness in acts of war we must reach before it can make the list? If so, where is it? Without any clear criteria, we might as well include all of history up to 1945 or even later.

Seems to me that especially oppression is such a wide term, as to make the list almost meaningless. It would probably be worthwhile to narrow it down somehow.
 
- Indonesian Bersiap 1939 - 1945 result in persecution and migration of Indo people from Indonesia.
- Extermination of Balkan Muslims 1700s to 1920.
- Persecution of non-Muslim in Middle East.
- Discrimination and Persecution of Romany, Cagot, Jews, Travellers, etc
- Saxon Genocide and other persecution of Pagans
- Bloody Code implementation to lower class Britons and other persecution of "criminal" class
- Peasant War in Germany

InMediasRes is correct. I think we should exclude event in Europe/NE, otherwise most historical event is included.
 
Instead, the whole point of the discussion went null when users started thinking the thread is about 'white (racial category) ever faced oppression and discrimination' and race-based politics. I locked the thread because I was unwilling to necro the thread as well with racial topics, and the thread had run its course.

If it's run its course and and died a natural death, you should let it go. If it it simply went in a direction that wasn't quite where you wanted to go, well that happens sometimes (I speak from experience). Since the mods didn't lock it I assume it wasn't too out there.

I stopped paying attention to it when we figured "gee, white people have been oppressed sometimes, big frikkin surprise, on to an important topic" (and groaned when I kept seeing it if I cared at all). I did note that "white" was used more broadly in some people's mind than I would but that was it.

But telling people not to behave in a way that they naturally will behave and getting annoyed when they behave that way is stupid.

Please, let the topic just die or don't get annoyed that you can't control where the topic goes.

I bid you good day.
 
Seems like it's impossible to have any kind of meaningful list. If we include "Pre-emancipation Russian serfdom (1723-1861)" in the list, can we also include all of Feudalism? Do we include debt bondage? If we include "Mongolian invasion of Eastern Europe (13th century)", do we include all wars with elements of subjugating, raiding, slashing and burning? Because that's most of them. If we include "Siege of Fort Zeelandia in Formosa by Koxinga (1661-1662)", do we include all sieges that turn ugly? Because, again, that's almost all of them. Or is there a certain threshold of terribleness in acts of war we must reach before it can make the list? If so, where is it? Without any clear criteria, we might as well include all of history up to 1945 or even later.

Seems to me that especially oppression is such a wide term, as to make the list almost meaningless. It would probably be worthwhile to narrow it down somehow.

To fulfill the criteria for an example of oppression of European/Near Eastern peoples, this should be the main points
  • Exceptionality (How unique was the event): The event must be notable and not part of 'normal life' in the past. For example, the Mongol conquests were notoriously bloody, causing thousands of deaths through terror and starvation tactics and biological warfare.
  • Depravity (How brutal when it happened): The event must have a high mortality rate and noticeable cruelties. For example, in 1804 Haiti, massacres against the French population occurred. What made it different than the slave rebellions was its horrifying level violence and cruelties inflicted on the white population as well the massacres occurred after the Revolution. Newly-liberated slaves who were armed murdered women and children, burned plantations to the ground, plundering and looting, and forced marriages and assaults on white women.
  • Aftereffects (How much damage inflicted on descendants): The event must have a serious, long-lasting effects on the oppressed and their descendants. For example, Soviet governmental actions between the Revolution to the Dissolution was destructive to the people. The Great Purge, the Holodomor, the Forced resettlements, religious persecution and other crimes wrought long-lasting damage to the people.
 
North African Christians, persecuted on and off over the centuries by various Muslim states. This led to the extinction of the Coptic language and the reduction of Egyptian Christians to a minority, destroyed the Greek and Berber Christians of Cyrenaica, and completely eradicated Christianity from the former provinces of Africa, Numidia, and Mauretania by the 14th century. One of the most historic centers of Christianity, Carthage, home of St. Cyprian, completely lost this heritage. Hundreds of bishoprics in North Africa fell vacant. Even a few centuries before this final extinction, the remaining community wrote letters to the Pope asking him to send bishops to North Africa as there was no one there to consecrate priests.

The Afariqi formed their own ethnic group under Arab rule, and were Latin-speaking Christians native to the region. The Afariqi soon faded away, in part because of periods of persecution. So along with the Copts, Christian Cyrenaicans, and Christian Berbers, they'd certainly count.
 
The Soviet Hecatomb, or the misery faced by Russians, Ukrainians and the Eastern Europeans during the era of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. It was a terrible era and place to live, filled with fear, terror and general starvation. These are the events that made up the Soviet Hecatomb.
  • The Holodomor: A engineered famine by Joseph Stalin designed to kill millions of Ukrainians in order to stifle nationalism and opposition.
  • The Great Purge: Joseph Stalin ordered thousands of political enemies, European ethnic minorities and other opponents by wide-scale surveillance, imprisonment and arbitary executions.
  • The Economic misery of the 1980's: Increasingly repressive economic policies causes large amount of business in Eastern Europe to crash as well causing an economic depression.
  • Dekulkization: A campaign to destroy millions of the wealthy peasant class through arrests, deportations and executions of millions.
  • Gulag System: A system of forced-labor camps used to imprison political enemies and other enemies of the Soviet state. Life in the camps were harsh, deadly and difficult to escape. Up to 1.7 million people perished in the camps, as a result of terrible conditions, disease, starvation and other cruelties.
  • Forced population transfer: Millions of Europeans were forcibly transported by the Soviets, which includes Poles (1939–1941 and 1944–1945), Romanians (1941 and 1944–1953), Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians (1941 and 1945–1949), Volga Germans (1941–1945), Ingrian Finns (1929–1931 and 1935–1939), Finnish people in Karelia (1940–1941, 1944), Crimean Tatars, Crimean Greeks (1944) and Caucasus Greeks (1949–50), Chechens and Ingushs (1944).
 
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