A successful British victory in the American Revolution TL, that do not lead to an independent republican America (of whatever size) a few decades later?
Arguably, Robert Sobel's For Want of a Nail is such a timeline, with the rebellion being defeated at Saratoga 1777 and a more-or-less magnanimous peace swiftly following.
I don't recall seeing one here, since I think the consensus is that it's implausible; a victorious Britain has no reason to be conciliatory toward the colonies, and a Britain that is not conciliatory towards them cannot hold them by force. The colonies will equal the population of the home islands in the 1830s; after that, they have all the cards - population, home turf advantage, defense in depth, even without foreign sponsors.
What if the colony came under attack by another imperial power, so that they needed help from the British?
I don't recall seeing one here, since I think the consensus is that it's implausible; a victorious Britain has no reason to be conciliatory toward the colonies, and a Britain that is not conciliatory towards them cannot hold them by force. The colonies will equal the population of the home islands in the 1830s; after that, they have all the cards - population, home turf advantage, defense in depth, even without foreign sponsors.
I don't think there's such a consensus at all, and there's a lot of disagreement on the issue on this site.
In terms of my own views, I think it's pretty viable. Britain was conciliatory when it retook places during the war, the British parliament got more liberal over decades after the 1770s, it generally takes a few decades until you get another rebellion in colonies and sectional disputes would have set in by that point.
There's a difference between viable and likely however. The probability is always going to be towards independence after about 1770.
I dunno if Parliament got more liberal. Certainly after the war, but the French Revolution caused a reaction. Fox's Whigs splintered and the Tories under Pitt prospered and enjoyed about twenty years of uninterrupted dominance, passing a variety of draconian acts in the interwar period, such as banning unions, meetings of large groups of people, the Corn Laws, ect. They also proved stubborn over Catholic Emancipation and the Reform Act.
The French Revolution would have had a significantly different course with an unsuccessful American one, especially if France does not get involved in the ARW. The effects of this on internal British politics of the time are Terra Incognita to me, but combined with the consequences of what happened in America could give you a rather different Parliament down the line.
Arguably, Robert Sobel's For Want of a Nail is such a timeline, with the rebellion being defeated at Saratoga 1777 and a more-or-less magnanimous peace swiftly following..
I meant on AH.com.
I dunno if Parliament got more liberal. Certainly after the war, but the French Revolution caused a reaction. Fox's Whigs splintered and the Tories under Pitt prospered and enjoyed about twenty years of uninterrupted dominance, passing a variety of draconian acts in the interwar period, such as banning unions, meetings of large groups of people, the Corn Laws, ect. They also proved stubborn over Catholic Emancipation and the Reform Act.
I am dubious about the idea that all the ideological underpinnings of the French Revolution were created from the American Revolutionary War. Obviously there was a lot of things borrowed from them but I think that the ideas of liberty and the emancipation of the common man from arbitrary aristocracy comes from mostly european sources (Rousseau, Voltaire) and even political agitators that existed before the American Revolution (John Wilkes and Pasquale Paoli to name the most important). They were covered in detail by press all over europe and had serious popular support among the lower classes of many nations. Those seem to be the more likely precursors to the French Revolution than the Americans, for many saw the American Revolution as distant and created under completely different circumstances than the French Revolution. I'm not saying that it wasn't important to the development of the ideology of the French Revolution. I'm just saying that the pressures of the Revolution, ie the dysfunction of the French tax system, as well as the ideology behind Revolution, (A popular republic which allows all men to vote and equalize society) were there and would make a French Revolution in the absence of an American Revolution plausible.
The population of America may never reach that of Britain. It is no longer as attractive a destination, so less immigrants.