Hard Ass Jews

From Die Welt December 9th, 1923...

The flamboyant trial of local Rebs Moshe and Shmuel Levi has come to an end yesterday as the jury voted to acquit the two brothers of the murder of local politician Adolph Hitler despite the apparant guilt of the two brothers. Moshe Levi had even reportedly boasted to the media earlier this month that "I killed that pig because he talked bad about my people. When people try to hassle Jews, I don't like it"...
Oh, the irony. I like it.:D
 
I like the Idea

OTL only in the Middle Ages the Christians began to bans Jews
where they could not live, was not allowed to do, what work they could not do.
they could only work as merchants and bankers

WI even that was banned for the Jews and only work as mercenaries.
Note in the Middle Ages were no regular Army, but troops made out mercnaries and serfdom.

imagine those wars with Jews merchants
Spain Reconquista, The Crusades (and zion homeland for Jews mercnaries )
the Hundered Years' War, local wars in Renaissance Italy, the Thirteen Years' War
Conquest of America by Jews mercnaries

imagine:
King Pedro IV of Aragon with panic frear wenn the word "Jew" is spoken
The Pope of Rome with Jews mercnaries bodyguard.
Battel of Waterloo were Napoleon lose aganist Nathan Rothschild and Mayer amschel Rothschild troops.

in this world the Jew ar not easy target for lynched
"Be afraid, be very afraid of the Jew", "God created the Jew to hunt the devil"
gona be completely contrary, they gona lynch and make Pogrom under civilians who hate Jews :eek:

wat a vision :D
1930s Berlin ze Reichskanzlei.
Adolf Hitler and others top members of his cabinet. in one corner of his office in panic frear.
bevor them a twelve year old girl,with a bloody toothpick in the hand
and behind her a pile of dead SS elite-guards
"next time it will be Mom & Dad visit you ! get the message German ?" say the Jewish Girl
"Please let me life, i beg you, take Himmler instead" howls Hitler
"your fault German, you know the old saying: Never becom a problem for the Jews !..." say the girl
 
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wat a vision :D
1930s Berlin ze Reichskanzlei.
Adolf Hitler and others top members of his cabinet. in one corner of his office in panic frear.
bevor them a twelve year old girl,with a bloody toothpick in the hand
and behind her a pile of dead SS elite-guards
"next time it will be Mom & Dad visit you ! get the message German ?" say the Jewish Girl
"Please let me life, i beg you, take Himmler instead" howls Hitler
"your fault German, you know the old saying: Never becom a problem for the Jews !..." say the girl

Great image:D:D:D:D:D;):cool:

Steve
 
On the one hand, Your timing is correct in having a jury trial before January 4th, 1924, when the old-fashioned jury-style Schwurgerichte were abolished (Emminger-reform).

On the other hand, Die Welt was founded in 1946.

Yeah, I knew Die Welt was founded in 1946, but I didn't know any German newspapers from the time. :rolleyes:
 

Hnau

Banned
Interesting. Hmmm... Zionism would certainly have a different ideological fervor involved with such martial Jews... could we see Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates, as promised to Abraham? That'd be interesting.
 
Well, you do have the contemporary Israeli armed forces, which are pretty respectable. They seem to be a very 20th century invention, though, and I' not sure how to project them back in time.

But what about as gangsters? There's Meyer Lansky right at the turn of hte 20th century - is it possible to imagine a medieval organized crime syndicate that any Jew could reasonably be rumored to be a part of? Even today, you have the assumption that any given Italian-American might be in the Mafia, so you just need that kind of protection racket to exist back in a time when there was plenty of crime, just too little organized.

Unless you want to talk about pirates...
 

HueyLong

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Well, you do have the contemporary Israeli armed forces, which are pretty respectable. They seem to be a very 20th century invention, though, and I' not sure how to project them back in time.

But what about as gangsters? There's Meyer Lansky right at the turn of hte 20th century - is it possible to imagine a medieval organized crime syndicate that any Jew could reasonably be rumored to be a part of? Even today, you have the assumption that any given Italian-American might be in the Mafia, so you just need that kind of protection racket to exist back in a time when there was plenty of crime, just too little organized.


Unless you want to talk about pirates...

This was one of the big stereotypes of Eastern European Jews for a time in the United States.
 
If the Jews were to have that kind of rep and existence, There is a high possibility that Christendom would become an amalgamated Christian/Jewish religion. Thus you would lose the special identity of Jews as a people in the process. However the desire to free the holy lands from the infidel would be a lot more ferocious as all Christians would think of themselves as 'Jews'.
 

Skokie

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^I agree. For Jews to thrive in the Christian world of late antiquity and the middle ages, Christianity would have to be much more Judaic than it is--and, I would add, post-Temple Judaism would have had to have been more "Christian." Imagine something in between The Assyrian Church (whose liturgy is Aramaic and contains many "Jew-ish" elements ;)) and the Ebionites.

One possibility for getting that accomplished would be to get a Jewish/Christian Roman citizen as Emperor. He would have to have been very popular. It would result in a situation analogous to the Arabization of the Caliphate, in which Egyptians, Syrians, Chaldaeans, etc. all became honorary Arabs, while the old Arabs (esp. around Mecca) held a pride of place. So the whole empire would be Jewish (or Jewish-Christian), while the genealogical Jews would hold a pride of place.
 
How about an alteration to the dhimmi laws gives the Ottoman Empire a Jewish Corps willing and eager to exact vengeance for pogroms and the such?
 
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As usual "For All Time" did it well:
A fair portion of America's black, Hispanic, and Jewish populations have been well-radicalized by the riots and their after-effects. Puerto Ricans have seen the government step firmly on the neck of their homeland (and kill dozens of people) and as firmly as it could on Puerto Ricans in the United States proper, blacks have seen the government hastily back away from the civil rights commitments made by the Wallace administration and then spend all their time putting out fires in Jewish neighborhoods. America's Jewish population, especially the millions of refugees from Europe and Palestine, have seen that if America is to be the homeland where they can live free of persecution, they'll have to buckle down and fight, as well as keep a watchful eye on the blacks and the Hispanics.
 
Try this:

To cement his vast imperium together, Deborah decided Charles needed a new class of bureaucrats and officials. Magistrates, tax-gatherers, prison governors, administrators and so forth. She decided that for maximum efficiency these people had to be career professionals, not temporary political appointments. They had to be literate. Aside from a few isolated Christian and pagan monks and scholars, the only literate people existing in anything approaching numbers were Jews. Over a period of years, lots of Jews became imperial officials.

Deborah's plan went further than this. She realised that the ability to read and write confers power, especially back then when perhaps one man in a thousand was literate. Deborah was also mindful of the history of her people, of the suffering and persecution they had endured. She was now able to stop this happening again by putting the Jews in a position of power. Under the Edict of Milan, Charles the Great decreed that only Jews should be allowed to learn and practise the secrets of reading and writing.

It became the law that non-Jews could not own books. The few Christian communities that were left in Charles's Empire had their scriptures confiscated. This, for us, was disastrous, for we knew that over the generations, we would have no way of passing on the knowledge that God had given to us.

Meanwhile, Charles' rule had brought stability, and people began to take peace for granted. Ambitious young men wanted to get on in the world by working for the imperial bureaucracy. To do this, they had to be Jews and they had to learn to read and write. Many, many people began to convert to Judaism. Ambitious parents would send their sons to Jewish schools. At the same time, the prevalance of Judaism at the court, and the large numbers of wise Jewish elders coming to Rome made people realise what a beautiful and ancient religion it is by comparison with the crude superstitions practised by most. Fashionable and sophisticated people flocked to convert.

In a couple of generations, virtually the whole of the official and aristocratic classes and very many townsfolk had become Jews, while out in the countryside, the peasants continued to worship their ancient sprites and will o'the wisps.
 
In Germany signs declaring 'Achtung! Juden!' were required to be hung by law outside Jewish Ghetto-Barracks in the years of the Kaiserraich prior to the German emancipation of the Jews in 1879 in response to the growing anti-semitism in the German population which had in turn led inevitable to an increased burden on Germany's public hospitals. In response Jewish residents of the Ghettoes hung signs asking 'Jews to take care with the goyim, they were'nt chosen for a reason'
 
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