Hanseatic States of America

Would that trade appear before reaching the Caribbean?

Tobacco was cultivated as far north as the st. Lawrenceville valley and new England, (and it grows wild in souter ontario), but it was the north amercantile variety which is a lot less pleasurable to smoke than the Caribbean variety. Basically, it had a ceremonial use and still contained enough nicotine for a noticeable effect, but was too bad tasting to be addictive.
 
Tobacco was cultivated as far north as the st. Lawrenceville valley and new England, (and it grows wild in souter ontario),
Cultivated when?
I´ve read claims that maize farming spread to St. Lawrence Valley only in 13th...14th century. Well, it certainly was on lake Ontario by 11th.
Would 11th century Norse encounter tobacco in Montreal, or would they not?
 
Tobacco was cultivated as far north as the st. Lawrenceville valley and new England, (and it grows wild in souter ontario), but it was the north amercantile variety which is a lot less pleasurable to smoke than the Caribbean variety. Basically, it had a ceremonial use and still contained enough nicotine for a noticeable effect, but was too bad tasting to be addictive.
Cultivated when?
I´ve read claims that maize farming spread to St. Lawrence Valley only in 13th...14th century. Well, it certainly was on lake Ontario by 11th.
Would 11th century Norse encounter tobacco in Montreal, or would they not?

I presume neither maize, nor tobacco would be encountered immediately, only a few centuries later, but they'd probably already know about it by 1400. But this market would only be in the development at that point.
 
I presume neither maize, nor tobacco would be encountered immediately, only a few centuries later, but they'd probably already know about it by 1400.
They did encounter vines in Vinland. How far south would they have had to sail for that?
I expect that they´d know about both maize and tobacco in a few decades, still before 1100. Appreciating tobacco is another matter.
 
As for vines, the northern vines seem to be Vitis labrusca and Vitis riparia - with riparia being the most northern. Where will riparia be first encountered?
 
Remember re 'vines' that no grapes grow in Iceland or Greenland. They wouldn't necessarily recognize a grape if it jumped out and bit them.
I think there's perfectly good reason to think that 'Wineland' could have refered to other fermentable berries.
 
Cultivated when?
I´ve read claims that maize farming spread to St. Lawrence Valley only in 13th...14th century. Well, it certainly was on lake Ontario by 11th.
Would 11th century Norse encounter tobacco in Montreal, or would they not?

You're right, I wasn't paying attention. To be honest, the research I've done involved the history literature moreso than archaeology literature, so it really only covered the state of affairs in 16th and 17th centuries, with the first written accounts of the area. I forgot that we were talking about 500 years earlier...
 
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