Hanoverian Prussia?

Is there any situation in which the Kingdom of Hanover gains control of Prussia either by marriage or conquest or a combination/process of both?

If possible, what does Hanoverian Prussia mean for German dualism?

Are there any TLs on this currently?

EDIT: By no later than the early 19th Century...
 
I know it's a little early but since I'm about to get off of here I'm "bumping before bed" as I like to call it...

A simple "no" will not suffice, either! I'm looking for reasons why it couldn't happen if it can't.
 
I know it's a little early but since I'm about to get off of here I'm "bumping before bed" as I like to call it...

A simple "no" will not suffice, either! I'm looking for reasons why it couldn't happen if it can't.

The Kingdom of Hanover? It would require an extremely improbable string of Hohenzollern line deaths to do it by marriage (assuming Prussia can be inherited that way), and conquest...of Prussia? Seriously? No. I think we know enough about Prussia for it to be unnecessarily time consuming to explain how badly that would go for Hanover.

Hanover as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunswick-L%C3%BCneburg ? I wouldn't want to say its impossible, but I'm not sure exactly how you'd make it work, either.
 
Salic Law would prevent it. Only men can inherit the throne of Prussia, and of course, most of the Germanic Principalities followed the same succession law. IIRC if the male line went extinct, semi-salic law allowed the succession of any daughter's son. Austria was a special exception, as her succession law was governed by the pragmatic sanction.

Possible, but unlikely. I do know one popular scenario, though, involves the Hannoverian line in Britain going extinct with Sophia Dorothea of Hannover becoming Queen of Great Britain. Her son, Frederick the Great would then be King of both Great Britain and Prussia.

EDIT: Ah, I see you meant the Hannoverian territories in Germany, not the actual House of Hannover... ignore this.
 
Possible, but unlikely. I do know one popular scenario, though, involves the Hannoverian line in Britain going extinct with Sophia Dorothea of Hannover becoming Queen of Great Britain. Her son, Frederick the Great would then be King of both Great Britain and Prussia.

This! I meant this. How is this possible, what are the effects, and are there any discussions on this already?

The whole point of this is British Prussia...

Or.. Prussian Great Britain - whichever way you fancy.
 
Salic Law would prevent it. Only men can inherit the throne of Prussia, and of course, most of the Germanic Principalities followed the same succession law. IIRC if the male line went extinct, semi-salic law allowed the succession of any daughter's son. Austria was a special exception, as her succession law was governed by the pragmatic sanction.

Possible, but unlikely. I do know one popular scenario, though, involves the Hannoverian line in Britain going extinct with Sophia Dorothea of Hannover becoming Queen of Great Britain. Her son, Frederick the Great would then be King of both Great Britain and Prussia.

Except, of course that the future George II would have to die before 1709 (when his grandson was born), or at least marry differently and be childless. Since FtG wasn't born until 1712 he might be butterflied away. However there could still ber a Hohenzollern succession, even if it wasn't him.

Another possibility is a century later. After the collapse of her betrothal to the Prince of Orange, Princesss Charlotte of Wales was for a time smitten with a nephew of the King of Prussia. However, her father, the Prince Regent, refused to countenance it. Had Prinny consented (or fallen off a horse and broken his neck) the marriage might have gone ahead and a Hohenzollern line inherited Britain. Re Hanover there is still the Salic Law, but the Prussian Army might overcome that problem <g>.
 
I suppose I should have rephrased as "British Prussia" or "Prussian Britain?"

The latter is much easier to arrange, since British law allowed for female succession, whereas Prussia's did not.


Incidentally, I've discovered another (albeit doubtful) way it could be done.

In Margaret Irwin's The Stranger Prince, it is alleged that Louisa Hollandina, daughter of Elizabeth of Bohemia and elder sister of Sophia of Hanover, was being courted by the future "Great Elector" of Brandenburg, but that this fell through due to rumours of a flirt between Louise and one of her tutors.

Unfortunately, this is fiction, and I have not been able to corroborate it from any non-fiction sourse. However, Irwin was generally meticulous about her history, so there might be something in it. If such a marriage really happened, then Louisa's (Hohenzollern) children would have preceded the Hanoverians in 1714.
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Can't sleep...

I'm not sure I buy that it is as simple as having a female British monarch marry a male Prussian one. The fear of "Balance of Power" backlash would certainly have discouraged such a union.

Still, if by marriage an act of personal union existed between Prussia and Britain, what would the long term effects be?

Surely Prussia would be ignored in the German Unification process, or forced to disconnect with the UK. Even then, the Germanization of Britain and the Anglo influence in Prussia would no doubt leave their butterfly heavy presences known.

I'm having trouble with the search function or I would find earlier threads on British-Prussian Union...

Sorry if this has come up before.
 
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