Hanover Unites Germany

I had a random thought today in class, while there are a plethora of Saxony, Prussia, and Austria unite Germany threads, could Hanover perhaps have filled this role in some way?

I'm not sure of the legal and political practicalities, but perhaps if the George's saw Britain's power as a way to increase Hanover's status? Could it be done with the British monarchs at all, even if Victoria is butterflied away?

Maybe Hanover creates a nice little Germanic state for itself in the NW corner of OTL Germany, perhaps with Oldenburg, Westphalia, and some Rhine territory?

What are yalls thoughts on a Hanoverian Germany?
 
This this would destroy Anglo-French relations. seeing how a unified Germany (until very recently) has never been in France's best interests.
 

Susano

Banned
Maybe Hanover creates a nice little Germanic state for itself in the NW corner of OTL Germany, perhaps with Oldenburg, Westphalia, and some Rhine territory?
*eyebrow twitching*

In any case, that would kinda require the Hannoverian King (who after also happened to be King of the UK at the same time) to lay much more focus on Hannover than IOTL. For obvious reasons they invested much more interest into the UK. And I cant really see Parliament liking it if the Monarch spends most his time on Hannover, either, even if technically thats in his other capacity (as King of Hannover that is)...
 
*eyebrow twitching*

In any case, that would kinda require the Hannoverian King (who after also happened to be King of the UK at the same time) to lay much more focus on Hannover than IOTL. For obvious reasons they invested much more interest into the UK. And I cant really see Parliament liking it if the Monarch spends most his time on Hannover, either, even if technically thats in his other capacity (as King of Hannover that is)...

Susano

On the latter point that might depend on the circumstances. I think George I was rather popular with Parliament because he spent so much time in Hanover and left the various aristocrats and merchant interests pretty much to themselves. Could possibly have a situation where Parliamentarians encourage an absentee monarchy spending most of its time in Hanover to get it out of their hair.

Problems with this means it requires the monarchy to give up a lot of power and influence in Britain. Also the situation when one of the two ends up at war and the effects on the other.

Steve
 
*eyebrow twitching*

Yeah, sorry about that. Me talking about Germany like that is like when people bring up the "Texas should split into five states" thing with me. It's quite "Gah" worthy.

But I'm no Germany expert and am reaching for a vague idea here so please bear with:p

In any case, that would kinda require the Hannoverian King (who after also happened to be King of the UK at the same time) to lay much more focus on Hannover than IOTL. For obvious reasons they invested much more interest into the UK. And I cant really see Parliament liking it if the Monarch spends most his time on Hannover, either, even if technically thats in his other capacity (as King of Hannover that is)...

Perhaps it becomes in Britain's interest to invest in the continent rather than the empire. What if the French (for whatever reason) gain a resounding victory in India and (largely) kick the British out?

Not only would a greater investment in a British-expanding Hanover union (probably another gah worthy statement...sorry) be a source of profit but it would also put a big check on France which we can only assume is doing much better ITTL.
 
This this would destroy Anglo-French relations. seeing how a unified Germany (until very recently) has never been in France's best interests.

Well at the time this could really happen 1700-1800, France and Britain aren't exactly the best of friends. Maybe Britain invests in a more powerful Hanover as a check on France.
 

Susano

Banned
Yeah, sorry about that. Me talking about Germany like that is like when people bring up the "Texas should split into five states" thing with me. It's quite "Gah" worthy.
I meant the mis-use of "Germanic". Thats always a gah issue.
 
Susano

On the latter point that might depend on the circumstances. I think George I was rather popular with Parliament because he spent so much time in Hanover and left the various aristocrats and merchant interests pretty much to themselves. Could possibly have a situation where Parliamentarians encourage an absentee monarchy spending most of its time in Hanover to get it out of their hair.

Problems with this means it requires the monarchy to give up a lot of power and influence in Britain. Also the situation when one of the two ends up at war and the effects on the other.

Steve


So a personal union only but a Britain largely left to its own devices?
 
There actually is a Victoria:An Empire under the Sun mod for Hannover, which allows you to do that, I'm not sure how the event chain worked out though.
 
I thought the British called a lot of the shots for Hanover in terms of defense and foriegn policy and the like
They did the same for Ireland up 'till the Act of Union 1800. But Ireland was still Irish, not British (at least until 1801).
 

Thande

Donor
I thought the British called a lot of the shots for Hanover in terms of defense and foriegn policy and the like

It was an awkward marriage. Half the time it seemed like it was the other way around, at least in the mid-eighteenth century when we wanted to stay out of European wars and the King kept dragging us in because Hanover was threatened by the French.
 
I see.

So basically the only way a Hanover can even think about uniting Germany without help of the ASB's is if Britain is ruled by another house.

Even then they would need a lot of luck to manuever around France, Austria, Prussia, the Dutch, Saxony, etc. Though they would make things interesting.
 
What about a far earlier POD? Like Bradenburg in OTL, could Hannover gradually become stronger until uniting Germany is plausible?
 
I see.

So basically the only way a Hanover can even think about uniting Germany without help of the ASB's is if Britain is ruled by another house.
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How about Britain ruled by the Capet House?:D:D

That may actually prevent the fracturing of Germany as a reaction. And who said the Emperor who brought everything back together with a strong centralised power could not be from Hannover?
 
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