I mean after having defeated the Spanish for Cuba in the early 1900s is it any way possible with a P.O.D. so that by 2010 Cuba and Haiti are US States?
As it concerns Cuba, this is quite easy to accomplish. You must weaken the anti-Imperialists in the 1898 US Congress somewhat, so that the Teller Amendment never gets approved. As it concerns Haiti itself, this is much more iddifuclt, since there would be huge racial and economic qualms about annexing a place chock-full with dirt-poor blacks, already headed to become the basket case of the Western Hemisphere. However, with a little butterfly in the Senate, you can easily have the Dominican Republic annexed in 1870 (the annexation treaty failed in the Senate by one vote), which was (and is) in considerably better socio-economic shape (and is rather less "black"). This gives America a stake into Hispaniola.
If US St. Domingo and Cuba lead to greater US investment into the Caribbean, including Haiti itself, which ameliorates the socio-economic shape of the country substantially, you may have an America that becomes sympathetic to Haiti statehood or association status after the end of segregation (but not earlier). Such an America would almost surely go for the annexation of Panama, too, when it builds the Canal, and perhaps Nicaragua later.
Intriguing - you could have a situation where the USA owns Cuba, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico - every big island EXCEPT JAMAICA
Thus, among the Jamaican revolutionaries you would have those campaigning for "liberation" from Britain, not to become independent but to become a state of the US!
Best Regards
Grey Wolf
I don't think the US were all that eager to grant statehood to people who arn't white
I don't think the US were all that eager to grant statehood to people who arn't white
I don't think the US were all that eager to grant statehood to people who arn't white
Which got statehood after whites were substantial part of the pouplation
which could in P.O.D happen on both Cuba and Haiti!
For Cuba, depends on how widely you define "white". Haiti, with its HUGE African population, would require serious "ethic cleansing" to make sufficiently "white".![]()
Intriguing - you could have a situation where the USA owns Cuba, Hispaniola and Puerto Rico - every big island EXCEPT JAMAICA
Thus, among the Jamaican revolutionaries you would have those campaigning for "liberation" from Britain, not to become independent but to become a state of the US!
Best Regards
Grey Wolf
Or perhaps it leads to Jamaica and the other British territories in the Carribbean (Turks and Caicos, Bermuda, Belize, The Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago) being integrated into Canada.
I do see the point people are making about not granting statehood to a few places for a while. I can see them becoming protectorates in the late 19th/early 20th Centuries, which they stay through the 1900s. In WWII, America draws heavily on these people to help fight the war, and they do so with distinction. After the war, many whites fan out across the Carribbean territories, and statehood comes rapidly. Cuba becomes a US state at the same time as Hawaii and Alaska, in 1959. Panama follows in 1962, The Domincan Republic and Haiti in 1965 and Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands in 1970. With the Americans integrating their territories into the US itself, the other islands of the Carribbean also agitate for independence from Britain. The Bahamas, Jamaica, Belize and the others are integrated into Canada in the 1950s and 1960s.
The real big changes here could go to the territories the US has in the Pacific, the Marianas and the Phillippines. I can't see the Phillippines becoming a US state (too large and too poor), but the Marianas I can see it.