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  1. Threadmarks: Newfoundland; 2016 general election

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    A redux version of Newfoundland here. Just tidied up the map and fleshed out the write-up. Hope you like it :)

    Up next: the Qattara Sea :p

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    The Dominion of Newfoundland, also known as Newfoundland and Labrador, is a British constituent country located on the eastern seaboard of North America, bounded by the Atlantic Ocean to the east and south, the Dominion of Canada (specifically the province of Quebec and the territory of Ungava) to the west, and shares a maritime boundary with the Commonwealth of New England and the French overseas department of Saint Pierre and Miquelon in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence in the southwest. With a combined area of 405,212 square kilometres, the dominion comprises the island of Newfoundland and mainland Labrador to the northwest. Newfoundland was the site of the oldest confirmed European contact with North America about one thousand years ago, and was one of the oldest British American colonies, having been first settled in the early-17th century. About 92% of the dominion's population lives on the island of Newfoundland (and its neighbouring smaller islands), of whom more than half live on the Avalon Peninsula.

    Human habitation in Newfoundland can be traced back about 9,000 years. The original settlers were sea-mammal hunters belonging to the Maritime Archaic cultures, and established themselves between 7000 BCE to 1500 BCE. The Maritime Archaic people were gradually displaced by people of the Dorset culture, including the Mi'kmaq, and finally by the Innu and Inuit in Labrador and the Beothuk on Newfoundland itself. The oldest confirmed European contact with North America was that of medieval Norsemen who settled the area known today as L'Anse aux Meadows around the beginning of the 11th century CE. There are several other unconfirmed accounts of European trans-Atlantic contact prior to the 15th century, although the accuracy of the tales and accounts are disputed. The first known European exploration of coastal North America took place in Newfoundland, when in 1497 John Cabot, chartered by King Henry VII of England, landed at Cape Bonavista.

    Despite Portuguese claims to the island, and the establishment of seasonal fishing outposts by the French, Basque and Portuguese, Newfoundland became England's first colonial possession in North America. From 1610 onwards, English colonies were established under a series of proprietary governors, although the native Beothuk people were displaced and gradually became extinct due to English and French settlement. Competing colonial claims between England and France were largely ignored by both sides in the early-17th century, with the English colony based out of St. John's on the east coast and the French established along the south coast around Plaisance. The richness of the waters around Newfoundland supported a substantial cod fishing industry, drawing settlers primarily from Ireland, but also Normandy, Brittany, and the Basque Country. Rival claims between the two powers led to repeated periods of war and unrest between England and France on the island, culminating in the destruction of nearly every English settlement by the French during King William's War in the 1690s.

    Following the War of the Spanish Succession, France ceded to the British its claims to Newfoundland under the terms of the Treaty of Utrecht, although they retained fishing and land rights to the north and west coasts, known as the "French Shores". The modern Franco-Terreneuvian population is largely descended from these settlements, and continue to speak a local dialect of French along the western coast of Newfoundland. Given the colony's isolation from the more southern British American Colonies, it did not become involved in the colonial unrest of the 1760s and 70s, and as such remained a directly governed crown colony outside the newly formed colonial government. However between 1825 and 1852 the colony elected a single delegate to the Colonial Congress.

    In 1854, Newfoundland was granted self-governing status and the colony rejected confederation with New England or the newly established Canadian dominion at the 1869 election. First Minister of New England Sir Joseph R. Hawley came very close to negotiating Newfoundland's entry into the Commonwealth in 1892. In 1907, Newfoundland was formally integrated into the United Empire as a Dominion, becoming the last of Britain's North American continental possessions to accede to the Union. Newfoundland raised it's own regiment during the First World War, which served with distinction in the American Theatre particularly during the trench warfare of the Battle of Phoenix where they helped defend the city against the Mexicans. Since the early 1800s, Newfoundland and Quebec had been in a border dispute over the Labrador region, and in 1927 the British government ruled the area known as modern-day Labrador was to be considered part of the Dominion of Newfoundland.

    The effects of the Great Depression, coupled with the construction of the Newfoundland Railway across the island, several political scandals and accusations of corruption by government ministers, brought about the collapse of the first Squires government and almost brought the dominion to economic collapse. A 1932 referendum saw the option to join Canada resoundingly defeated by the electorate, and the British imperial government stepped in to enforce government and economic reforms on the dominion, which averted a potential financial collapse and loan default. In the immediate post-war period, a second attempt to integrate the dominion into either New England or Canada failed with the 1948 referendum. Despite opting to remain a separate dominion, Newfoundland continued to pursue closer economic ties and infrastructure links with Canada and New England, including the major Churchill Falls hydro-electric facility. Cod fishing continued to be one of the largest employers in Newfoundland until the industry collapsed, causing a mini-depression in the local economy and forcing increased diversification.

    In the 21st century, Newfoundland has diversified its economy to include a strong tourism sector and seen a major energy and resources boom. The discovery of petroleum reserves under the Grand Banks has seen the emergence of an oil industry in Newfoundland, with offshore oil production contributing 15% of the dominion's GDP. The island is home to a large population of Gaelic-speakers, with nearly a quarter of the population being of Irish ancestry, which is a legacy of Irish settlement, while the west coast remains substantially French-speaking. Culturally, Newfoundlanders have a strong national identity, a result of generations of mixing between English, Irish and French cultural traditions, and this was solidified when the 1980 referendum chose to replace the Red Ensign with the current flag.

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    The 2016 Newfoundland general election was held on 15 February 2016 to elect, under the instant run-off voting system, the 48 members of the Newfoundland House of Assembly.

    The incumbent centre-right government of United Newfoundland, led by First Minister Kathy Dunderdale, went into the election after 13 years in office with slipping poll numbers, suffering from a slew of resignations and the controversial attempts to amend Newfoundland's Protection of Privacy Act. The opposition centre-left Liberal Democratic Party, under leader Jack Harris, ran on a platform of balanced government spending, capitalising on dissatisfaction with the overspending and the massive deficit accrued by past UNP governments. The Progressives, under former First Minister Lorraine Michael, promised to raise the minimum wage and restore funding to the education system, but lost support as party frontbenchers were unable to explain where the extra funding would come from. With opinion polls predicting a hung general assembly, pundits expected the formation of a coalition government between the Lib Dems and the Progressives.

    In a surprise result, the election gave the Lib Dems a two seat majority in the house, whilst the UNP lost more than half their pre-election districts. The Progressives lost two seats, continuing their decline from the 2000 election, and Lorraine Michael announced her resignation as party leader on election night. UNP leader Dunderdale followed suit at a press conference the following day. The regionalist New Labrador Party, which advocates for an elected Labrador Assembly, swept all four of the continental territory's seats in a surprise victory, and party leader Yvonne James called for a devolution plebiscite in Labrador during the next general assembly. The Viceroy invited Jack Harris to form a government the following day, and he was sworn in as the 30th First Minister of Newfoundland.

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  2. Threadmarks: First Ministers of Newfoundland

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    And the follow up list :)

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    First Ministers of the Dominion of Newfoundland (1855–) [1]
    11. 1855–1858 Philip Francis Little (Liberal majority)
    12. 1858–1861 John Kent (Liberal majority)
    13. 1861–1865 Sir Hugh Hoyles (Conservative majority)
    14. 1865–1870 Sir Frderick Carter (Conservative majority) (1st)
    15. 1870–1874 Charles Fox Bennett (Reform majority)
    14. 1874–1878 Sir Frderick Carter (Conservative majority) (2nd)
    16. 1878–1885 Sir William Whiteway (Conservative majority)
    17. 1885–1889 Sir Robert Thorburn (Reform majority) (1st)
    18. 1889–1894 Daniel Joseph Greene (Liberal majority)
    17. 1894–1897 Sir Robert Thorburn (Reform majority) (2nd)
    19. 1897–1900 Sir James Spearman Winter (Reform majority)
    10. 1900–1909 Sir Robert Bond (Liberal majority)
    11. 1909–1918 Edward Morris (People's majority)
    12. 1918–1919 William Lloyd (Liberal minority)
    13. 1919–1919 Michael Cashin (People's minority)
    14. 1919–1923 Richard Squires (Liberal Reform majority) (1st)
    15. 1923–1924 William Warren (Liberal Reform minority)
    16. 1924–1924 Albert Hickman (Liberal Reform minority)
    17. 1924–1928 Walter Monroe (Liberal-Conservative minority)
    18. 1928–1928 Frederick C. Alderdice (Liberal-Conservative minority) (1st)
    14. 1928–1932 Richard Squires (Liberal Reform majority) (2nd)
    18. 1932–1936 Frederick C. Alderdice† (United Newfoundland majority) (2nd)
    19. 1936–1942 Harry A. Winter (United Newfoundland majority)
    20. 1942–1949 Albert Walsh (United Newfoundland majority)
    21. 1949–1972 Joey Smallwood (Liberal Democratic majority)
    22. 1972–1979 Frank Moores (United Newfoundland majority)
    23. 1979–1989 Brian Peckford (United Newfoundland majority)
    24. 1989–1989 Thomas Rideout (United Newfoundland majority)
    25. 1989–1996 Clyde Wells (Liberal Democratic majority)
    26. 1996–2000 Brian Tobin (Liberal Democratic majority)
    27. 2000–2003 Lorraine Michael (Progressive minority)
    28. 2003–2011 Danny Williams (United Newfoundland majority)
    29. 2011–2016 Kathy Dunderdale (United Newfoundland majority)
    30. 2016–2020 Jack Harris (Liberal Democratic majority)

    [1] - Known as the "Chief Minister" from 1855 to 1907.​

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  3. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    I like it. I like it a lot.
     
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  4. StormStar King-Emperor of the Britannic Empire and Kingdom

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    Interesting post, I like it.

    Will you ever be doing another Stargate Ad Astra or start a thread on that timeline, because if do will there be post topics on for example the original human home world in the Ori galaxy, how the stargate is used in timeline e.g. As a interstellar airport like in the 2001 episode or a as interstellar rail connection like in most other British Stargate timelines, Imperial SGC, Avalon (Milky way) Colonies, Pegasus Colonies, Ida Colonies, the rebuilding of the Alteran city which was shown in the tower episode and where Atlantis is in this timeline (at the mouth of Thames).

    Also can I ask will UKE call themselves Tau'ri in that timeline, as I personally hate that name because the existence of the Alterans invalidates the meaning of that name and its name the name given to the humans of earth by the Goa'uld, the main enemy of the SGC. It doesn't make sense as the SGC is fighting tooth and nail against the Goa'uld vision of humanity (slaves), which they rejected completely but accept and uses the name the Goa'uld gives.
     
  5. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    So Belize is Mexican territory, but recognizes the British monarch as head of state? Sounds kind of confusing.
     
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  6. 20person Well-Known Member

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    I think you meant to write Jack Harris here.
     
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  7. LeinadB93 Just Leinad

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    Good :)

    I have a few things in the works for Stargate Ad Astra, but nothing ready to post just yet. Celestis and it’s history would be interesting to look at, and I have a few ideas for Milky Way/Pegasus colonies... And an alternate Ori Crusade...

    Humans from Earth will probably choose the demonym “Terran” for themselves. But “Tau’ri” is an exonym used widely by the inhabitants of the Milky Way to describe humans from Earth and its colonies.

    Belize is in effect a diarchy - with both the Mexican Emperor and the British Monarch as joint heads of state. A bit like the Co-Princes of Andorra.

    Yes indeed I did! Thanks for catching that.
     
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  8. Threadmarks: Newfoundland Gaelic

    LeinadB93 Just Leinad

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    A bit of house keeping about the surviving Gaelic language in Newfoundland:

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    Newfoundland Gaelic or Newfoundland Irish, known in English as often simply Gaelic, is the dialects of Irish Gaelic spoken on the island of Newfoundland by people descended from the mass immigration of Irish speakers, chiefly from Counties Waterford, Tipperary and Cork. Newfoundland is the only place outside Europe with a distinct Irish-language name: Talamh an Éisc ("Land of the [One] Fish").

    Irish labourers were recruited for the migratory fishing industry from southeast Ireland, bringing with them the Irish-language. By the late 17th century Irish-speaking communities were established around Trinity Bay and the northern coast of the Avalon Peninsula, and from the late 18th to the early 19th centuries large numbers of Irish speakers emigrated to Newfoundland, settling across the Avalon Peninsula and around the port of St. John's. By the 1780s, the Irish had become the dominant ethnic group in and around the St. John's area, and by 1815 the Irish population in Newfoundland numbered nearly 20,000. Many Irish resided in the smaller outports on the coast of the Avalon Peninsula, and the persistence of Irish language and culture in Newfoundland was closely tied to the continued existence of these communities.

    Irish Gaelic is a member of the Goidelic branch of the Celtic languages, and the Newfoundland dialects have their origins in the Irish province of Munster, from where many of the original Irish settlers originated. In Newfoundland today, Gaelic is spoken as a first language by nearly 30% of the dominion's population, with an additional 200,000 people claiming some proficiency in the language. Gaelic has become an important part of Newfoundland's culture, particularly on the Avalon Peninsula, with church services often conducted in the Gaelic language, and the celebration of Irish feast days and Gaelic sports. The continued use of Gaelic in Newfoundland has contributed to changes to the local dialects of English, with the adoption of Irish loan words and grammar features into Newfoundland English.

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  9. StormStar King-Emperor of the Britannic Empire and Kingdom

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    Will the Stargate be activated early than the US Stargate due to the nature of Egypt in the Empire.

    Also will the fact of the still existing Soviet Union as 2018/2019 affect a future disclosure or will the Stargate be used in a Reagan Star Wars situation.

    Finally, will you use any of the multiverse events in the Stargate series in your timeline e.g. the Alteran reality mirror, that episode where multiple realities SG teams kept arriving in the Prime SG reality and reality jumping Daedalus and her crew.
     
  10. Threadmarks: Map of World Economic Development

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  11. LeinadB93 Just Leinad

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    No the Stargate isn't activated earlier than the 1990s. In Ad Astra the Stargate is public knowledge after 2010 following the Ori/Wraith attack. The surviving Soviet Union, and stronger Commonwealth, means there is much more international involvement from day one. Also more ships earlier on = greater Earth power projection.

    Those incidents may come up...
     
  12. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    Here's OTL for comparison.
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  13. StormStar King-Emperor of the Britannic Empire and Kingdom

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    What is happening in the grey part
     
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    I'd like to know what happened to Maurice Bishop ITTL. With communist parties being banned under Imperial law, would he become an underground activist, or would he join Socialist Labour?
     
  15. Threadmarks: Qattara Sea

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    Nigeria is in the midst of a devastating civil war, with three main factions backed by various nations. The infrastructure of most of the country is a mess, as is the economy, so it's pretty much classified as "Data Deficient" for any kind of international ranking. Prior to the war it would have been "Less Developed". But it's going to take years (if not decades) to return to the pre-war level of economic development.

    Hmm... Two possibilities: 1) he becomes a Socialist politician in the West Indies, or 2) he becomes a Che Guevara type figure by joining communist forces in Africa (the Kongo goes communist and Che gets involved). Given there is no Cuban Revolution, which seems to have been the OTL event that led Bishop to communism, I'm leaning towards the former. But the idea of him being West Indian equivalent to Che Guevara interests me...

    Anyway, here's perhaps the most audacious macro-engineering project ever attempted in any TL (excluding Atlantropa obviously :p).

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    The Qattara Sea, sometimes known as Lake Qattara and historically the Qattara Depression, is a vast body of water in northwestern Egypt, variously classed as a lake or a full-fledged sea. It is an endorheric basin and is the largest man-made body of water in the world. Prior to the 1970s, the Qattara region was a vast desert covered with salt pans, sand dunes and salt marshes. Its surface and shores are 52.5 metres (172 ft) below sea level, the deepest part of the sea is at 133 metres (436 ft) below sea level, the second lowest point in Africa. With a salinity of 320 g/kg, the Qattara Sea is one of the world's saltiest bodies of water, and this salinity makes swimming similar to floating. Although it has been called "Africa's Dead Sea", the region provides habitat for numerous species of flora and fauna, including acacia, palm graves, cheetahs, and gazelles. The northern coastline is dominated by the steep escarpments of the El Diffa plateau, whilst the southern coast slopes gently to the Great Sand Sea. The two primary outflows for the sea are the Siwa River, an artificial waterway connecting to Lake Siwa, and a series of small canals linking to Lake Sitra.

    Historically uninhabited with exception of the nomadic Bedouin people, the Qattara depression was first mapped by Europeans in the 1920s, followed soon after by the first proposals for flooding the region to generate hydroelectric power. During the Second World War, the depression was considered impassable for tanks and military vehicles and no large army units entered the depression for the duration of the war. In the 1950s proposals reemerged to flood the depression, primarily to generate massive hydroelectric power on par with the Aswan Dam, but also to positively alter the climate in the region and tie Egypt more closely to the Western world in the growing Cold War. In 1964 an international working group was established between the British, Egyptian and French governments, with involvement from several other Western European nations, to plan and oversee the flooding of the Qattara depression. The two-part project involved the construction of a canal from El Alamein on the Mediterranean coast, via the Moghara Oasis, to the eastern tip of the depression, and an underground tunnel from Fouka through the El Diffa escarpements to the northern border of the depression, where the height difference would be used to generate hydroelectricity.

    Initial construction of the Muhammad Ali Canal and the Fouka Tunnel took the better part of the next decade, with some historians believe played a role in the financial difficulties in Britain during the 1970s and 80s, and the gradual inflow of water filled the depression to a height of 52 metres below sea level over the course of 12 years. By 1985 the sea had reached its modern depth and state, with subsequent engineering projects creating the canals to form Lake Sitra in the south, and the artificial Siwa River which linked to the historic Siwa Oasis (now protected by various flood defences) to form Lake Siwa in the southwest. The development of the sea led to the construction of the harbour facilities at Port Abbas, where the canal entered the sea, and numerous settlements along the coast encouraging migration from eastern Egypt and across the Arab world. Qara, formally a small oasis, became one of the fastest growing cities in Africa, and is now the third largest in the Qattara region, after Port Abbas and New Thonis.

    The full effects of the macro-engineering are still being studied, and are yet to be fully understood. The region has seen a massive increase in biodiversity, encouraged by the artificial introduction of plants and animal life to the sea and surrounding coast. Rainfall has increased significantly across Cyrenaica to the west and the Great Sand Sea to the south, and the effects are still being analysed, whilst desalinisation and irrigation has created thousand of hectares of farmland along the coast and surrounding region. The population of the region is estimated at around 5 million people, and many of the inhabitants are descended from Palestinian immigrants from the Levant. Culturally the area is dominated by Arab Muslims, but there are also substantial Coptic Christian and Jewish populations, whilst New Thonis has become a centre of the Kemetic movement, with the revival of the Ancient Egyptian religion.

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    I know the map isn't great, but it's the best I could do.
     
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  16. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    Will there be an Egypt infobox soon?
     
  17. LeinadB93 Just Leinad

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    Not as yet, but I do have something in the pipeline...

    On an unrelated note, New England held a referendum in June 2018 about changing the voting system. And I want you all to decide the outcome!!

    A bit of background first. New England is one of only three dominions in the Empire to still use FPTP, the others being Sierra Leone and Carolina. The vote was a two stage process, much like OTL New Zealand's 2011 referendum:

    Question 1: Should New England keep the First Past The Post (FPTP) voting system?

    Question 2: If New England were to change to another voting system, which voting system would you choose?
    1) Additional Member System (OTL Scotland)
    2) Instant Run-Off Voting (OTL Australia)
    3) Mixed Member Majoritarian (TTL Virginia & Puerto Rico)
    4) Mixed Member Proportional (OTL New Zealand / TTL Britain)
    5) Single Transferable Vote (OTL Ireland)​

    I'll be tallying up the votes and percentages on Saturday 4 May (i.e. 2 weeks time) and posting the referendum results on the Sunday.
     
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  18. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    BTW - AMS is a form of MMP. I don't see why you need to list them separately here.
     
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  19. LeinadB93 Just Leinad

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    Yes it is, but in New England they listed them separately:

    Under the AMS proposal, each province would be allocated list seats based on their population. These seats are elected by PR within the province. Whereas MMP would elect list seats based on the party's share of the national vote.
     
  20. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Fair enough.

    Can we get a list (or a map) of the electoral systems the different parts of the Empire uses?
     
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