Hadrian's Rome: Rise of the Greater Eastern Roman Empire

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Iron_Lord, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. Iron_Lord Well-Known Member

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    POD: 124- Hadrian fails negotiating a settlement with the Parthian King Osroes I and chooses to hold Mesopotamia, Assyria and Armenia.

    Rome invades the Parthian held Zagros Mountains, defending Mesopotamia, Assyria and Armenia from further Parthia Attacks. Under Hadrian, Rome develops a massive manned wall, similar to the Border created in Brittania.

    Parthia, No longer reaping the benefits of of Mesopotamia River vally per OTL, and already wracked by Noble infighting and nomadic incursions, accelerates Parthia fracturing, allowing various Vassal States to carve regions out for themselves.

    Over the next 200 years, the Early Christian Church, drawn by the richest of East begin to convert the people in the warring States of the middle east, creating the Church of the East.

    The Roman empire Splits, East and West (as in OTL), in 385 AD. As the Western Roman Empire surcumes to it's doom, the Eastern Empire survives (as in OTL) and begins to invade the various Middle Eastern warring states. Christian Missionaries go as far as China and begin to spread Christianity, having ripple affects throught society.
    And this is were I have no Clue what to do! Should the Greater Eastern ROman empire crush the Islamic Armies? With Romes focusing it's attention on the east, should the West fall faster?

    Comments would be appreciated!
     
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  2. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    1) if the sassanids show up sya good bye to Roman conquest but they can be butterflied

    2) islam may never exist as the point of departure is so far back in time
     
  3. Iron_Lord Well-Known Member

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    Great! Due to increased Christian activities in the east (and hopefully arabia) Islam may never exist... Well that solves that!
    If Hadrian Does his massive controlled border idea, wouldn't the Sassanids wash against the border like a wave against a rock? A had assumed that the Sassnids were not versed in the arts of Seige warfare? Or maybe Im wrong...
     
  4. Iron_Lord Well-Known Member

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    Correction, Sassanids had highly affective Seige warfare tactics (OTL), Although if they can't expand into mesoptamia, they should be contained.
     
  5. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    assuming a crisis like the crisis of the third century still occrus the sha can take back mesopotemia
     
  6. Iron_Lord Well-Known Member

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    This timeline is assuming that the Romans Focuse their efforts on the East and Hold the highly Defendable Zagros Mountains. But yes... A third century Crisis may be a (slight) problem. Although... Mesopotamia is one of the core reasons that these Middle Eastern Empires were so powerful, right? (Population Centres, Taxations, ext)
     
  7. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    eh it was important but in this time , before the establishment of the sassanid empire , adashir was king of peris , and the early capital of the sassanid empire was Istakhr.

    assuming that some sha as talented as him unites persia and rome is in third century crisis like crisis

    roman mesopotemia does not stand much of a chance