Had Mexico Joined the Axis

What makes you think those Mexican laborers wouldn't want to stay in the United States? Why do you think they came here in the first place? Let's think about this: you're a Mexican laborer in California, circa 1942, Mexico inexplicably goes to war with the US. What do you do?

My guess? You start waiving the Stars and Stripes as high as you can, as often as you can in a bid to gain permanent citizenship. You might even volunteer to fight for the United States vs. Mexico in this scenario.

The Americans harshly interned the Japanese for far less, and I presume the pervasive racism of the era would've struck Mexican-Americans as hard as it did the Japanese-Americans.
 
its obvious that the united states would win any war with mexico in the 20th century a more interesting question is how would a war with mexico concurrant with ww2 affect americas actions i.e troop deployments material on the world stage and how in turn that would affect the entire war and post war years.now how long does it take america to conqour enough of mexico to knock them out of the fight.and how does america deal with the proplem of the inevitable mexican insurgants?
 
The Americans harshly interned the Japanese for far less, and I presume the pervasive racism of the era would've struck Mexican-Americans as hard as it did the Japanese-Americans.

Hmmm. Not sure that's the case. AFAIK, Hispanics weren't viewed in the same light as "Japs" in that time frame -- there was racism, sure. But it's hard for me to see it directed against Hispanics. Keep in mind also the 442nd Infantry Regiment.
 
Hmmm. Not sure that's the case. AFAIK, Hispanics weren't viewed in the same light as "Japs" in that time frame -- there was racism, sure. But it's hard for me to see it directed against Hispanics. Keep in mind also the 442nd Infantry Regiment.

I presume you've never heard of the Zoot Suit Riots? The 1940s were not a good time to be an American of Latino heritage.

Also, what does a single Japanese-American infantry unit have anything to do with the greater racism of mainstream America? The fact that the only way they felt they could prove their loyalty to this country was through the shedding of their blood says something rather uncharitable about how Americans felt about the Japanese community during the war.
 
Mexico vs USA. yeah, that is rich.:D Mexico would get curbstombed without having any curbs to get stomped on.

True enough, but what many people might overlook in such an unlikely scenario is that war with Mexico would divert resources that would have gone to fighting Japan and Germany. Perhaps no Operation Torch, and Overlord may have suffered a delay. Germany would have kept right on fighting through 1945... until it got atom bombs dropped on it.
 
If mexico had declared war against the us, how many days would it take for a general to organise a coup and make peace with the US
 
All the US needs to do is to push Mexico back from the border to ensure no shelling and to prevent infiltration (as much as possible). You can expect the National Guard & police in the border states to be quite harsh towards any unknown Latino males anywhere near the border. I would expect that you'd see the USAAF use various Mexican cities as targets for crews during their final stages of training before going overseas.

Seriously though, unless they replace any Mexican government with inmates of the local asylum, no way they'd attack the USA (say in 1941 when the Japanese attack & Germany declares war on the US). Even leaning a little towards the Axis would result in unpleasant consequences for Mexico. Can't recall which Mexican politician made the following quote "Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States" but very true.
 
The Mexicans might cause the US some trouble in the occupation after their defeat, tying down some trained troops that could be better used in other theaters, but that's the best they could hope for. Mexico might even benefit from this postwar, if the US throws some Marshall Plan aid their way.
 
Honestly just as they used Japanese American troops against Germany I could easily see them shuffle Mexican American troops to the Pacific theater.

This event might even be good for African American troops as they would be needed for a greater combat role to fill in for men overseas. US invades Mexico using a very ethnic corps of troops with white commanders of course.

If Mexico had prepared for war since 1938 it could be more ready once tey immediately cut off oil shipments to the US. If they snuck in Germans to train a flight school and teach the building of new aircraft they would be more prepared. They may do a three pronged strike into the South west at see to the caymens on the way to Cuba and south to Belize and Panama. Assuming this brings Argentinian support early to the Axis in support of Mexico taking Panama things could get interesting.

While the US would be caught off guard for the scale of the event it would quickly mobilize troops to Texas. It would mobilize ships to free Belize for a southern campaign.

Mexico would take alittle longer to fall in this scenario but the US would take it well before the idea of internment came up plus the war would be very unpopular with many Mexicans against the Mexican government.

Germany would surrender after the bombing of Japan to US forces with more pressure being used to keep Soviets at bay with failing results.

Belize is occupied by US troops with a celebration toward their entering Belize city following the retreat or surrender of Mexican soldiers who chose a very italian way of fighting in WW2.

Panama is liberated thanks to US troops breaking the Argentinian blockage and rescuing the surrounded soldiers. Panama sees the deployment of many British commonwealth soldiers from the carribean.

Puerto Ricans are sent to European front and Pacific front because of percieved possible sympathies for Mexicans.

A far greater percentage of black troops are used in the American campaign.

The US would occupy Mexico to well pass the war being over, possibly to 1960 and even then it would forever maintain bases in Mexico proper. This might lead to nationalistic conflict after 1960 of Mexicans wanting US troops out, but the US would only close most of its bases not all of them. Particially some Mexicans will perfer the integration and consider annexation being a choice. This sentiment will be shared by many in the US with some split between a highly racialized view of Mexicans and others wanting to annex parts of Mexico to all of it.

Some more radical elements from Mexico would likely try a few assassination attempts against both US presidents, senators and Mexican officials.

If things make it to the 1990s and they go into the whole diversity outlook then more calls for annexation and removal of bases will be taken seriously. More bases closed down and some Mexican regions get closer to the US resembling the US southwest than Mexico OTL. Cellphones and the information age will make things seem even more toward integration. Posters talking about spitting Mexico.

BTW who would the US turn to for help in invading Argentina?
 
BTW who would the US turn to for help in invading Argentina?

Chile? Maybe they'd like to take all the Land of Fire, as well as Argentina's claims in the South Atlantic and Antarctica. One thing's certain; if Argentina allies with the Nazis, they are NEVER going to get the Falklands.
 
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