Ricardolindo
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Say, that, Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille have a son and, thus, the Habsburgs never inherit Spain. How does this effect Spain, Europe and the world? Could the Netherlands be part of an alternate Germany?
Netherlands will likely stay united and I can not see any valid reason for keeping Netherlands (who will stay united under Habsburg rule), Austria and Bohemia outside ATL Germany (who will likely be united much earlier than OTL by the Habsburg emperors)...Say, that, Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille have a son and, thus, the Habsburgs never inherit Spain. How does this effect Spain, Europe and the world? Could the Netherlands be part of an alternate Germany?
Netherlands will likely stay united and I can not see any valid reason for keeping Netherlands (who will stay united under Habsburg rule), Austria and Bohemia outside ATL Germany (who will likely be united much earlier than OTL by the Habsburg emperors)...
Ferdinand and Isabella had a son (Juan) who died without heirs (a stillborn girl was born after his death) and an elder daughter (Isabella) who had a son (Miguel) who died in infancy. So either Ferdinand and Isabella had another son (maybe ATL Catalina is born as Alfonso) or Juan and/or Isabella live longer and left heirs who will rule Spain after the death of Isabella and Ferdinand
No way. Bohemia’s history was too strongly tied to the Holy Roman Empire for thinking seriously to a separation after the Habsburg united Germany including themIf nationalism eventually hits off in this timeline, would Bohemia separate from Germany, since it is Slavic?
No way. Bohemia’s history was too strongly tied to the Holy Roman Empire for thinking seriously to a separation after the Habsburg united Germany including them
No way. Bohemia’s history was too strongly tied to the Holy Roman Empire for thinking seriously to a separation after the Habsburg united Germany including them
Hungary and Bohemia would be tied to Poland and Lithuania once Sigismund II dies.
That's a hell of an Empire right there. From the Baltic to the Black Sea to the Adriatic. It probably wouldn't stay together all that long though.
The collapse could come in the age of nationalism.
That's a hell of an Empire right there. From the Baltic to the Black Sea to the Adriatic. It probably wouldn't stay together all that long though.
Say, that, Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castille have a son and, thus, the Habsburgs never inherit Spain. How does this effect Spain, Europe and the world? Could the Netherlands be part of an alternate Germany?
Why you are so sure who Mary was the one infertile? Plus with a POD so early is pretty unlikely who Philip and Juana will have the same children in the same order and they will marry like OTL... With this POD maybe Anne of Foix will be less lucky than OTL and had only daughters or Vladislaus will die earlier without childrenBut if POD is Juan of Asturia living, it means that it is Catherine of Austria (not infertile Mary), who marries Louis II of Hungary who (despite being a retard) might have had a healthy children (he had a bastard IOTL), so Hungary and Bohemia would be tied to Poland and Lithuania once Sigismund II dies.
Because Louis was the one, who had children out of wedlock. And if he had children, logic tells that Mary was the one infertile. If Anne de Foix died without children, Vladislaus's crown pass to Sigismund.Why you are so sure who Mary was the one infertile? Plus with a POD so early is pretty unlikely who Philip and Juana will have the same children in the same order and they will marry like OTL... With this POD maybe Anne of Foix will be less lucky than OTL and had only daughters or Vladislaus will die earlier without children
Casimir IV wasn't a king of Hungary. It definitely would be difficult, but Russia was similarly multiethnic and somehow managed to stay in power.I'm inclined to believe it won't be maintained/is difficult. See Louis of Anjou, likewise Casimir IV. Now if we're we're talking cadet branches and a family compact, seems like a good deal.