Gypsy homeland?

the Roma fiefdom in corfu was just that: as in many places in Europe, corfu had a small gypsy population. The Venetians found it easy instead of collecting the taxes from the gypsies herself to make up a fiefdom and let a small (and rather poor) feudarch to cope with the gyspies.
 
Yeah, American Roma are able to integrate fully, but she's from an Italian Roma community that left Hungary in the 20's. She's from it. Like, born and raised in this community. She's in this country cause her brother brought her here a couple years ago, and I met her cause her brother and I worked together. And yeah, while alot of Roma are hard working, normal people, the loveable rogue or honorable gyspy view of the Roma are romanticized views that are total bunk. The injuries that my parter and i got inflicted on us made us realize that alot of them are just a semi-organized criminal subculture, in a similar way to the Basques in Spain and France, Irish (my people) in the US, and the Bahai in Iran.

There's a reason Roma don't integrate well anywhere outside of the US, because every single nation including to a slightly lesser extent Britain (with the gypsies) treats Roma as subhuman scum, sure the European Union may enshrine their rights in EU law, but that's a lot different to actually forcing member states to treat them as normal human beings.

Even in England which is one of the more tolerent countries when it comes to gypsies (and other minorites), I have seen demos marching down the streets of respectable towns basically demanding gypsies be expelled, in the last five years - Bournemouth springs to mind, where even the local paper published by a large national company, essentially called for them to be denied the right to live in the town...

A Roma homeland is an awsome idea, however it would basically be like Israel only with no superpower to protect it.

Interestingly I once saw a website about Travellers (my people on my da's side, and equally hated) which said we were related to the Romani, which is nonsense though there has been cooperation, trade, and intermarriage for many years, due to our similar lifestyles.
 
Sorry for the necromancy, but I've recently taken an interest in this question. The History of the Romani is indeed very similar to black people in the US, the main difference being that they still get absolutely no respect. Imagine a Gypsy PM of Italy, Romania or Serbia!!

What I'm wondering is: Does anyone have maps of Romani distribution before the Porajmos? Was there anywhere comparable to Polish Yiddishland, ie where the Romani population was greater than 20% or 30%?

I also have a question about Rroma culture. Apologies if it comes out as offensive - I plead ignorance and mean no harm. I've heard that the Rroma look down on legal work - if you earn your living from honest work, you will be shunned by the community and even lose the 'right' to call yourself Romani. Is this true, half-true, or just a racist libel? Thanks!
 

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I also have a question about Rroma culture. Apologies if it comes out as offensive - I plead ignorance and mean no harm. I've heard that the Rroma look down on legal work - if you earn your living from honest work, you will be shunned by the community and even lose the 'right' to call yourself Romani. Is this true, half-true, or just a racist libel? Thanks!

The problem are that Gypsies are not in any way a unified group, it several thousands related "clans" which little to no loyalty to each others. Some are the worst kind of thieves, robbers and conmen, while others are hardworking, some are nomadic, some are semi nomadic some aren't, some are Muslims, some are Christian. So it almost impossible to say such and such are all gypsies. The problem are when people are aware they're dealing with Gypsies, they're dealing with them as beggars and conmen at best. Which is why most people avoid Gypsies like the plague, and why Gypsies in honest work keep low profile with their ethnic origin. Of course it should be said that there also exist middlegroups people whom work when they can, but in hard times or when they have oppotunity, shift to dishonest work.
 
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