This is cross posted from the SJGames World War II forums.
I'm working on a WWII campaign set in an alternate history where the South won its independence. I like the Union from the Dixie setting in GURPS Alternate Earth; libertarian and already holding western Canada, but I want to merge this with the CSA from Harry Turtledove's Southern victory series of books.
My initial idea is to have the ACW go as per Dixie and then be followed by Turtledove's Second Mexican War which is lost by the Union. A little over a decade later the Guiana War is fought which sees the status quot pre-Second Mexican War returned, and the US is allowed to annex the Manitoba Republic, which was formed in 1885 by way of the Second Riel Revolt (while Britain was busy in the Central Asian Crisis with Russia). France, humbled by their loss to Prussia in 1870 and wary of the new German Empire, and its Spanish ally (now ruled by Leopold of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen) negotiates an end to crisis and works to form a alliance between Britain, France, Russia and the CSA.
WWI kicks off in 1914, as per Turtledove's description, and sees Germany, Austria and Spain against the Entente. Japan soon enters the war allied to Britain while a more industrialized Siam upholds her treaty commitments to Germany. Italy, the Netherlands, the United States and the Ottoman Empire remain neutral. This changes in 1915 when a Confederate sub sinks a Union warship and the US declares war on the Entente powers in April. Two months later Russia makes the mistake of attacking the Ottomans, thus bringing them into the war. The US mainly fights in North America and the Pacific, but Gen. Pershing is send with the AEF to the Middle East where he spends most of his time in a running battle with British forces under T.H. Lawrence.
In the end Germany is able to force Russia out of the war and as winter nears in 1917 France finally collapses. Japan sees the writing on the wall and withdraws from the war in a negotiated settlement. Britain and the CSA try to hold on, but the US capture of Toronto and Halifax coupled with the defeat of a large portion of the British fleet at the Battle of Sable Island force Britain out of the war as the threat of starvation nears. The Confederacy and its Mexican ally as for terms in September of 1918.
The Great Depression begins in 1922 when Russia and France both default on their loans and reparations. Germany and Austria threaten war but ethnic, colonial and communist uprisings prove too distracting. Italy, which sat out of the war, is ironically the first government to become fascist in 1924. France comes under the control of Action Française and Charles XI, and Britain sees Mosley's Silver Shirts seize control. Much of the Royal family flees to Canada, which was returned to Britain in return for its demilitarization and British Guiana, allowing Edward VIII to resume the throne.
Russia is plunged into a brutal Civil War (1921-1931) that sees the a new Tsar finally defeat the Communists with the help of his extremely vicious head of internal security, Stalin. The CSA too has problems with sporadic violence by blacks and dissatisfied poor whites. Having been forced to finally end slavery at the end of the Great War their economy is in shambles. The US is one of the few nations to see a relatively quick recovery as the new Republican administration reduces government interference and lowers tariffs and taxes. Initial labor unrest eases as business begins to boom into the Roaring Thirties.
Unfortunately, the rise of Jake Featherstone's Freedom Party in the CSA increases international tension and the Socialist victory in 1936 opens the door for Confederate demands for plebiscites in US occupied territories. Kentucky and western Texas vote to return the CSA but Sequoya and Sonora's pro-Union outcomes anger Featherstone.
In 1939 France launches a sudden invasion through Belgium into the Netherlands and Germany. They are soon joined by Italian attacks against Austria and a Greek attack on Anatolia. Britain also declares war on Germany and her allies but soon becomes bogged down in a rebellion in India and an ill-fated assault on Norway. The US enters the war on Oct. 31, 1940 after a French submarine attack on Union held Bermuda. On June 22, 1941 the CSA invades the United States and on November 30, 1941 Japan launches an offensive against Dutch, British and Union holdings throughout the Pacific Rim.
Any thoughts so far.
Benjamin
I'm working on a WWII campaign set in an alternate history where the South won its independence. I like the Union from the Dixie setting in GURPS Alternate Earth; libertarian and already holding western Canada, but I want to merge this with the CSA from Harry Turtledove's Southern victory series of books.
My initial idea is to have the ACW go as per Dixie and then be followed by Turtledove's Second Mexican War which is lost by the Union. A little over a decade later the Guiana War is fought which sees the status quot pre-Second Mexican War returned, and the US is allowed to annex the Manitoba Republic, which was formed in 1885 by way of the Second Riel Revolt (while Britain was busy in the Central Asian Crisis with Russia). France, humbled by their loss to Prussia in 1870 and wary of the new German Empire, and its Spanish ally (now ruled by Leopold of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen) negotiates an end to crisis and works to form a alliance between Britain, France, Russia and the CSA.
WWI kicks off in 1914, as per Turtledove's description, and sees Germany, Austria and Spain against the Entente. Japan soon enters the war allied to Britain while a more industrialized Siam upholds her treaty commitments to Germany. Italy, the Netherlands, the United States and the Ottoman Empire remain neutral. This changes in 1915 when a Confederate sub sinks a Union warship and the US declares war on the Entente powers in April. Two months later Russia makes the mistake of attacking the Ottomans, thus bringing them into the war. The US mainly fights in North America and the Pacific, but Gen. Pershing is send with the AEF to the Middle East where he spends most of his time in a running battle with British forces under T.H. Lawrence.
In the end Germany is able to force Russia out of the war and as winter nears in 1917 France finally collapses. Japan sees the writing on the wall and withdraws from the war in a negotiated settlement. Britain and the CSA try to hold on, but the US capture of Toronto and Halifax coupled with the defeat of a large portion of the British fleet at the Battle of Sable Island force Britain out of the war as the threat of starvation nears. The Confederacy and its Mexican ally as for terms in September of 1918.
The Great Depression begins in 1922 when Russia and France both default on their loans and reparations. Germany and Austria threaten war but ethnic, colonial and communist uprisings prove too distracting. Italy, which sat out of the war, is ironically the first government to become fascist in 1924. France comes under the control of Action Française and Charles XI, and Britain sees Mosley's Silver Shirts seize control. Much of the Royal family flees to Canada, which was returned to Britain in return for its demilitarization and British Guiana, allowing Edward VIII to resume the throne.
Russia is plunged into a brutal Civil War (1921-1931) that sees the a new Tsar finally defeat the Communists with the help of his extremely vicious head of internal security, Stalin. The CSA too has problems with sporadic violence by blacks and dissatisfied poor whites. Having been forced to finally end slavery at the end of the Great War their economy is in shambles. The US is one of the few nations to see a relatively quick recovery as the new Republican administration reduces government interference and lowers tariffs and taxes. Initial labor unrest eases as business begins to boom into the Roaring Thirties.
Unfortunately, the rise of Jake Featherstone's Freedom Party in the CSA increases international tension and the Socialist victory in 1936 opens the door for Confederate demands for plebiscites in US occupied territories. Kentucky and western Texas vote to return the CSA but Sequoya and Sonora's pro-Union outcomes anger Featherstone.
In 1939 France launches a sudden invasion through Belgium into the Netherlands and Germany. They are soon joined by Italian attacks against Austria and a Greek attack on Anatolia. Britain also declares war on Germany and her allies but soon becomes bogged down in a rebellion in India and an ill-fated assault on Norway. The US enters the war on Oct. 31, 1940 after a French submarine attack on Union held Bermuda. On June 22, 1941 the CSA invades the United States and on November 30, 1941 Japan launches an offensive against Dutch, British and Union holdings throughout the Pacific Rim.
Any thoughts so far.
Benjamin