Greek rite Saxons

I know the Saxons rebelled against Frankish rule but what if the Saxons get converted to Greek rite Christianity in the 8th to 9th centuries, they get converted by the Greek Missionaries and use Greek Rites in rebelling against the franks what would be it's consequences on the Frankish Empire?
 
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Could you provide a bit more as to how they are converted, exactly, or your own general thoughts on it?

I think they could convert after the mission of Methodius and Cyril in Great Moravia, they could switch to greek rites as a rebellion against the Franks to lessen their hold on the Saxons.
 
I think they could convert after the mission of Methodius and Cyril in Great Moravia, they could switch to greek rites as a rebellion against the Franks to lessen their hold on the Saxons.

This is liable to be a problem. You would need a much more successful mission to take the orthodox preachers all the way to Saxony (which is not modern-day Saxony, bordering Moravia, but modern-day Lower Saxony, pretty much). Anmd you would need to give the Saxons an incentive to convert. We do not know a lot about them, but from the accounts of Anglo-Saxon missionaries it seems that not being Christian was part of Saxon group identity well before Charlemagne began converting them. Of course in the long run Christianity is liable to be successful, but having it happen before the 760s is very hard to see.
 
From the accounts of Anglo-Saxon missionaries it seems that not being Christian was part of Saxon group identity well before Charlemagne began converting them. Of course in the long run Christianity is liable to be successful, but having it happen before the 760s is very hard to see.
Even if a few kings and hence their subjects converted to Greek Orthodoxy, you still have the problem of Roman Catholic infiltration. Both the Arian Visigoths and the Celtic Church eventually lost out to it.

To keep the Roman Catholics out you need either a secular force like the Byzantine Emperor (or as later half a wolrd way the Japanese Shogun) or distance, which probably why Russia remained Orthodox. The Saxons certainly don't have the latter and I don't believe that they have the former either.
 
Even if a few kings and hence their subjects converted to Greek Orthodoxy, you still have the problem of Roman Catholic infiltration. Both the Arian Visigoths and the Celtic Church eventually lost out to it.

To keep the Roman Catholics out you need either a secular force like the Byzantine Emperor (or as later half a wolrd way the Japanese Shogun) or distance, which probably why Russia remained Orthodox. The Saxons certainly don't have the latter and I don't believe that they have the former either.

Or perhaps have Italy and the Pope more controlled by the Byzantines and a "Western Schism" supported by the Franks happens..
 
I don't get it, in protestation of their christian king/emperor, who force them to become christian, they become christian ?

I mean for a pagan, what's the difference between eastern or western rites ? They don't care ! They don"t want to be christian, they don't want to be under frankish rule (that in their eyes would be basically the same thing). It's like if Spain during Al-Andaluz decide to become Shia muslim instead of Sunni muslim just to piss the Maures off.
 
I don't get it, in protestation of their christian king/emperor, who force them to become christian, they become christian ?

I mean for a pagan, what's the difference between eastern or western rites ? They don't care ! They don"t want to be christian, they don't want to be under frankish rule (that in their eyes would be basically the same thing). It's like if Spain during Al-Andaluz decide to become Shia muslim instead of Sunni muslim just to piss the Maures off.

I think more likely is that Saxons and Wends are influenced by Cyril and Methodius, which will result initially in Greek Rite Denmark, Poland and Saxons which would reunite with Roman church later, I think it would also affect Southern Italy as well, the Byzantines could hold it better.
 
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