Greece wins 1920's Turkish War

Onyx

Banned
Alright new rule
When making Greco-wank vs. Turkey, always join forces with Turkish-wanks therefore we can
*Everybody gets tired of me talking and just heres "Blah blah blah"*
 
Abdul Hadi Pasha,
I perfectly know that is quite annoying seeing your own country subject to undue mockery and considered fit only for conquest by people who never bothered to check facts (since I'm italian you can understand what I mean). Though Daedalus was aiming to a wank and by definition wank have only the most tenous contact with reality. Cut him a bit of slack ;).

As I said, the issue is not the scenario, which I'm happy to discuss, it's inflammatory statements like huge chunks of Turkey are "rightfully" Greece's. That's not a historical discussion, it's ideological and irrelevant.
 
Well, I'm glad we're all friends.

So, can we celebrate by doing up parallel timelines where the Greeks manage to thrill, chill and fulfill, and the Ottoman's avoid the miseries from 1850 on and actually manage to win a few wars?
 

Onyx

Banned
I can now imagine Greeks, Turks, Russians, Brits, Italians, Serbs (???) Running in a flower field skipping and dancing.
 
As I said, the issue is not the scenario, which I'm happy to discuss, it's inflammatory statements like huge chunks of Turkey are "rightfully" Greece's. That's not a historical discussion, it's ideological and irrelevant.

I do have to give you that. Wanking is one thing. It's a popular recreational activity around here.

But making inflammatory statements that are ideological as hell, not nice. That's crossing the street to spit on someones shoes.

I think that Daedelus now appreciates this.
 

Onyx

Banned
I do have to give you that. Wanking is one thing. It's a popular recreational activity around here.

But making inflammatory statements that are ideological as hell, not nice. That's crossing the street to spit on someones shoes.

I think that Daedelus now appreciates this.

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:D
 
Well, I'm glad we're all friends.

So, can we celebrate by doing up parallel timelines where the Greeks manage to thrill, chill and fulfill, and the Ottoman's avoid the miseries from 1850 on and actually manage to win a few wars?

AHP has one in the works, I believe. *Wets self in anticipation*
 
Or odder yet: Greece and Turkey team up for some Balkan Butt-Busting!

VO: "One was a grizzled old veteran who refused to lie down...the other a hot-headed young upstart with something to prove. Together, they would make the Mediterranean HOWL! Jerry Bruckheimer presents: Ghosts of Byzantium. In Theaters this summer." (soundtrack plays Linkin Park cover of "Istanbul...no Constantinople")
 

Onyx

Banned
lol in my Victoria game, I saw Greece and Turkey team up against Serbia and the other Balkan nations.
They were like "wtf Greece, we thought you and Turkey didn't like each other"
 

yourworstnightmare

Banned
Donor
Alright new rule
When making Greco-wank vs. Turkey, always join forces with Turkish-wanks therefore we can
*Everybody gets tired of me talking and just heres "Blah blah blah"*
Just ignore everyone who behaves like an ass.
However claiming that Greece have more rights over an territory than Turkey is just stupid. I'd say in 1920 neither Turkey nor Greece had any good claim, since both just tried to gobble up as much former Ottoman territory as possible. Today Turkey definitely has the superior claim (and Greece have none, since they have given up all claims).
 
Just ignore everyone who behaves like an ass.
However claiming that Greece have more rights over an territory than Turkey is just stupid. I'd say in 1920 neither Turkey nor Greece had any good claim, since both just tried to gobble up as much former Ottoman territory as possible. Today Turkey definitely has the superior claim (and Greece have none, since they have given up all claims).

Um... Sorry to threaten the group hug status quo, but that's nonsense because

1) The Ottoman Sultanate still existed during the war.

2) The Republic of Turkey is the successor to the Ottomans.

3) And by far the most importantly, the people of the Sevres lands wanted to be Turks.
 
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