Greece-wanking

TFSmith121

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Rhetorically, I suppose, but going after nation states

Don't forget Sicily, and southern Italy, too.
Greece conquers the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies?
;)

Rhetorically, I suppose, but going after nation states that were Christian in the Nineteenth Century presumably would cause some problems.

Given some of the romanticism inherent in European support of the Greeks, historically, some sort of claim of redemption of the holy land is not out of the realm of possibility; of course, depending upon the departure point, if the Greeks can ally with pro-independence Arabs (Moslem and Christian) to open a third front aganst the Ottomans/Turks, they'd probably have to paper over that, but its not out of the realm of possibility, at least.

Perhaps the Papal Zoauves will be invited to participate in an expedition to the Levant - add in some early French and Italian interest in the North African littoral, and the Greeks might find themselves with more powerful allies other than (just) the Russians...

Basically, it's a chance to deal with the Eastern Question in (presumably) the first half of the Nineteenth Century, rather than the second (or the Twentieth); if the Greeks are willing to serve as a proy for the British and get control of the Straits, that at least puts a "Christian" buffer state between the Russians and British, and (presumably) moves the issue of control to a diplomatic contest, rather than a military one.

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TFSmith121

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Didn't say they'd actually get it...

Hey, I said wanking, but not with help from alien space bots...


Didn't say they'd actually get it...just that from a rhetorical point of view, seems a little more likely than marching to the north.;)

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I found some information regarding the demographics of Constantinople and the Greeks in Anatolia during the Ottoman Period. As late as 1886, Muslims were just around half of the population of Constantinople Province, a figure that would rise to 62% by 1914. In Çatalca Province (west of the Bosporus) Greeks were still the majority, and in Adrianople they formed a large minority.

Constantinople 1477 (Households)
9,486 Muslim Turks
4,127 Greek
1,687 Jewish
434 Armenian
267 Genoese
332 Other European Christians

Constantinople Province in 1886
53% Muslim
21% Greek
21% Armenian
3% Jewish

Istanbul Province in 1914
Muslims 560,434
Greeks 205,762
Armenians 84,093
Others 59,689
Total 909,978

Istanbul 1920
560,434 Muslims
384,689 Greeks
118,000 Armenians
44,765 Jews

Istanbul in 1924
1,165,866
61% Muslim Turks
26% Greeks
7% Armenians
6% Jews

1914 Population of Anatolia & Istanbul (Roughly the borders of Modern Turkey)
Muslims 12,606,488
Greeks 1,292,140
Armenians 1,245,902
Others 215,665
Total: 15,360,195

1914 Population of Ottoman Empire
Muslims 13,390,000
Greeks 1,564,939
Armenians 1,173,422


1893 Catalca
35,848 Greeks
15,091 Muslims

1914 Catalca
36,791 Greeks
20,048 Muslims
842 Armenians

1914 Aydin Province (Izmir/Smyrna)
1,249,067 Muslims
299,097 Greeks
20,287 Armenians

1914 Edirne Province (Adrianople)
360,411 Muslims
224,680 Greeks
19,773 Armenians

1914 Canik Province (Samsun)
265,950 Muslims
98,739 Greeks
27,319 Armenians
 
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