Greco-Turkish Federation

Your challenge is to have Greece and Turkey as part of the same political unit with a POD after 1900 and each having at least some autonomy.
 
Your challenge is to have Greece and Turkey as part of the same political unit with a POD after 1900 and each having at least some autonomy.

Neo Byzantium Empire or Neo Ottoman empire, where the two OTL borders are two different provinces.

That's basically it. An equal multiethnic union; not gonna happen.
 
What if 1915 doesn’t happen? Armenia and Greece have been close. Turkey could be seen as a link between not only Europe and Asia but Greece and Russia.
 
I actually have this in my timeline. Before the Second World War in my timeline a Communist Turkey aided by the Soviet Union managed to occupy Greece establishing a Communist Hellenic State. Now this doesn't immediately pan out to your challenge, but by the end of the war, there is a Communist government in control of Albania, Turkey, Greece, Cyprus and the Caucuses. The government is known as the Eurasian Union and is centered from Istanbul.
 
calling Skippy the ASB

IRL, in late June 1914 Greek PM Venizelos decided to cancel his plans for a preemptive strike on Turkey and taking some factors into consideration:

  • Serbia and Romania’s reluctance to safeguard Bulgaria’s neutrality in a Greek- Turkish war
  • The negative attitude of the Great Powers.
  • The Turkish threats for massacre of the entire Greek population in Asia Minor in case of a Greek-Turkish war.

Last, but not least the alleged re-establishment of Greece’s naval superiority in the Aegean Sea after the purchase of the two American battleships Idaho and Mississippi, now renamed Kilkis and Lemnos. Both ships were completed back in 1908 but still ranked as pre-dreadnoughts. Nevertheless, Venizelos seemed to believe that, even if Turkey got the two modern Sultan Osman and Resadieh, the experience and the bravery of the skilled Greek sailors would tip the balance in favor of Greece in the case of a Greek-Turkish naval showdown.

Therefore, Venizelos opted for a peaceful settlement over the Greek- Turkish dispute, believing that he could negotiate from an advantageous position. He prepared a Draft Treaty of Peace and Reciprocal Protection that provided the defensive Greek-Turkish alliance for the preservation of the status-quo in the Balkans, a voluntary exchange of populations and the agreement that the disputed islands would become autonomous under Turkish formal suzerainty, but with a Greek governor- general.

Turkey valued an alliance with Bulgaria rather than the Greeks and once the new Turkish Dreadnoughts are ready then the Greek Navy will be outclassed and unable to hold the Aegean islands she gained in 1912-13.
 
IRL, in late June 1914 Greek PM Venizelos decided to cancel his plans for a preemptive strike on Turkey and taking some factors into consideration:

  • Serbia and Romania’s reluctance to safeguard Bulgaria’s neutrality in a Greek- Turkish war
  • The negative attitude of the Great Powers.
  • The Turkish threats for massacre of the entire Greek population in Asia Minor in case of a Greek-Turkish war.

Last, but not least the alleged re-establishment of Greece’s naval superiority in the Aegean Sea after the purchase of the two American battleships Idaho and Mississippi, now renamed Kilkis and Lemnos. Both ships were completed back in 1908 but still ranked as pre-dreadnoughts. Nevertheless, Venizelos seemed to believe that, even if Turkey got the two modern Sultan Osman and Resadieh, the experience and the bravery of the skilled Greek sailors would tip the balance in favor of Greece in the case of a Greek-Turkish naval showdown.

Therefore, Venizelos opted for a peaceful settlement over the Greek- Turkish dispute, believing that he could negotiate from an advantageous position. He prepared a Draft Treaty of Peace and Reciprocal Protection that provided the defensive Greek-Turkish alliance for the preservation of the status-quo in the Balkans, a voluntary exchange of populations and the agreement that the disputed islands would become autonomous under Turkish formal suzerainty, but with a Greek governor- general.

Turkey valued an alliance with Bulgaria rather than the Greeks and once the new Turkish Dreadnoughts are ready then the Greek Navy will be outclassed and unable to hold the Aegean islands she gained in 1912-13.

Wasn't there an admiral that didn't care what the government said and was going launch a preemptive strike anyway and to the best of his ability before Turkey got those dreadnoughts? Or his plan was to destroy the dreadnoughts before they got delivered.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/averted-wwi-greco-turkish-war.381814/
 
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Yes, the situation was so desperate that the Greek Navy was planning pre-emptive strike on the new Dreadnoughts. The C-in-C of the Greek Fleet (haed of the RN Naval Mission), Royal Navy Admiral Mark Kerr had 'gone Native' and was risking his career by pressing his good friend First Sea Lord Battenburg about what were the legal implications if Kerr became a Greek citizen to join the fight against the Turks.

I think you are referring to Admiral Kountouriotis who would lead a rogue torpedo boat squadron to sink the Turk ships in transit and then he'd hand himself over to Greek authorities to be executed if need be to give Greece a diplomatic exit.
 
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