Graphics Timeline - A Greater East Asia

[PolishMagnet]

Part 2 of Africa will be next, for now Vietnam

Viet Minh or Emperor? Why not both

 

[PolishMagnet]

Assassination of Richard Nixon; Capitol Hill Massacre

Yeah so the more intense colonisation of Africa led to a harder stance against Civil Rights, so America is waaay behind ITTL. This leads to more unrest and ultimately, THIS. Someone threw a rock at Nixon really hard, and he hit his head hard on the ground, killing him. Secret Service shoots everyone and riots ensue. Military intervenes. Military knows the war in Africa isn't sustainable and makes a new gov't.

tl;dr someone threw a rock at nixon

edit: reformatted a bit

 

[PolishMagnet]

African Wars will be finished next time, now here's China

Chinese Unification Flag
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edit: fixed "aksai chin" being mentioned twice instead of "arunachal pradesh"

 

[PolishMagnet]

The last part of the African Wars series: The Katangan War

Next post will be a new arc focused on Europe

 

[Screwhorn77]

African Wars will be finished next time, now here's China

...All China includes Aksai Chin twice?

 

[PolishMagnet]

...All China includes Aksai Chin twice?

whoops, thanks for pointing it out!

 

[traveller76]

What is the situation in India and South Asia?.

 

[PolishMagnet]

What is the situation in India and South Asia?.

India goes a bit differently than OTL since WW2 goes differently, but I'll get into that in another post. They still go independent post-WW2 but it's a slower process and happens with Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh as one country. There's mass unrest and eventually Pakistan and Bangladesh break free.

Malaysia and Singapore leave Britain bloodlessly and quite late, Indonesia fights for independence during WW2.

 

[PolishMagnet]

Successor to the USSR: the Union of Sovereign States

basically New Union Treaty happens but the restructuring weakens its unity. Each member is an independent country, and the USS ends up working like an EU-type system.

 

[PolishMagnet]

Final chapter(?): WW2

Germany and Austria ITTL are like Japan IOTL, but unlike OTL Japan there's no reason to rearm (no resurgent Russia here).

Anyways, I'm pretty sure that's all for this timeline. There are a few things I brainstormed that I've not made posts about, but there isn't much to say about them. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

 

[irispaiva]

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Why is white Russia/Primoria so small and underpopulated? I would imagine a West/East Berlin situation is bound to happen due to its land border with the USSR. If Japan managed to prop up a white-russian state, I'd imagine a lot people, especially the ones Stalin didn't like would try to flee for the nicer Russia, its not best option, but it beats Stalin's Russia. I think there would be a bit beef between the Soviets and Japan over Primoria, since its basically the PRC/Taiwan scenario but on crack. Then again, idk about the early days of Promoria.

 

[PolishMagnet]

Why is white Russia/Primoria so small and underpopulated? I would imagine a West/East Berlin situation is bound to happen due to its land border with the USSR. If Japan managed to prop up a white-russian state, I'd imagine a lot people, especially the ones Stalin didn't like would try to flee for the nicer Russia, its not best option, but it beats Stalin's Russia. I think there would be a bit beef between the Soviets and Japan over Primoria, since its basically the PRC/Taiwan scenario but on crack. Then again, idk about the early days of Promoria.

I did the populations based on OTL populations. Soviet Union and Japan did have beef over Primoria, but I was thinking after the collapse/reform of the USSR into the USS a treaty was signed between the Russian Federation and the Russian Republic (not yet named Primoria) where all claims were dropped (Primorian Independence) and East Russian (Primorian) companies would shoulder some weight from the restructuring of the Soviet economy. It may sound naïve, but I did intend for this timeline to be a happy / peaceful world.

edit: the small size is due to Japanese restraint during the intervention, since the supply situation was quite hairy at the time.

You're probably right that the population would be much higher, and I'll take it into account for my planned follow-up. This whole idea is going to be repackaged at some point into a full textbook-style timeline.

 

[irispaiva]

I did the populations based on OTL populations. Soviet Union and Japan did have beef over Primoria, but I was thinking after the collapse/reform of the USSR into the USS a treaty was signed between the Russian Federation and the Russian Republic (not yet named Primoria) where all claims were dropped (Primorian Independence) and East Russian (Primorian) companies would shoulder some weight from the restructuring of the Soviet economy. It may sound naïve, but I did intend for this timeline to be a happy / peaceful world.

edit: the small size is due to Japanese restraint during the intervention, since the supply situation was quite hairy at the time.

You're probably right that the population would be much higher, and I'll take it into account for my planned follow-up. This whole idea is going to be repackaged at some point into a full textbook-style timeline.

Nothing wrong with a "chill world" scenario. Althrough I find it a bit odd that Stalin somehow got the bomb first and didn't think about pressuring Japan to let go of Primoria. Good luck with your next work.

 

[Mitridates the Great]

US does not get Philippines (opportunistically taken by Japan during Spanish-American War) and gets frustrated by the annexation of Hawaii.

Ok, I would have thought that, at this point, the United States would say something like

USA: "Manifest Destiny! How dare those [insert racist slurs as you preference] Japanese take away the good land that God himself gave us! We are the most WASP nation in existence, no one can oppose us!" *They proceed to declare war on Japan to take Hawaii and the Philippines*

I mean, since they apparently have the energy and willingness to organize more extensive colonization in Africa, we might think that by "strategic imperative" they would prioritize destroying Japan even more.

 

[PolishMagnet]

Ok, I would have thought that, at this point, the United States would say something like

USA: "Manifest Destiny! How dare those [insert racist slurs as you preference] Japanese take away the good land that God himself gave us! We are the most WASP nation in existence, no one can oppose us!" *They proceed to declare war on Japan to take Hawaii and the Philippines*

I mean, since they apparently have the energy and willingness to organize more extensive colonization in Africa, we might think that by "strategic imperative" they would prioritize destroying Japan even more.

I get that, but I was thinking the US is weaker after a longer and bloodier civil war, and by the time they feel up to the tast, they are hesitant because the AngloJapanese Alliance has been formed. The US instead focuses on the Americas and Africa to build up and eventually go to war. I thought maybe isolationism would eventually win out, however, which is why the US doesn't get involved in the world wars ITTL.

 

[Mitridates the Great]

I get that, but I was thinking the US is weaker after a longer and bloodier civil war, and by the time they feel up to the tast, they are hesitant because the AngloJapanese Alliance has been formed. The US instead focuses on the Americas and Africa to build up and eventually go to war. I thought maybe isolationism would eventually win out, however, which is why the US doesn't get involved in the world wars ITTL.

Well, that makes sense too. I mean, they would have to fight in Canada and the Caribbean, which is easy.

But things get more complicated if we think that they would have to invade British and Japanese possessions single-handedly in Eurasia. And trying to intimidate another country into letting them put forward bases would only make them look worse.
(Negotiating is out of the question because the UK can double down on any offer the US makes, and back it up with the threat of the Royal Navy if necessary.)

Giving them the Belgian Congo, I guess it was an agreement "We don't want any of us to keep this territory, but we don't want it to just be empty either. So we're going to give it to this guy, who none of us particularly dislike"

 

[irispaiva]

they are hesitant because the AngloJapanese Alliance has been formed.

So, an Anglo-Japanese alliance prompts an Anglo-American split? I feel like if you're going to buff Japan like that, maybe Taisho should decree a prototype of the racial equality law as Primoria gets set up, while the US goes the opposite way, complete with an delay in the civil rights movement, makes for a lot of friction should they go the colonizer path.

 

[PolishMagnet]

May I ask why population of Korea is quite big?

I based it on South Korean population density applied to the entire peninsula.

 

[Wendell]

It surprises me that so many states in the Japanese orbit are republican rather than monarchist.

 

[Brave Soldier 10-4]

Excellent work! Can you tell me more about what America is like in a long lasting Jim Crow society? Would this type of segregation be similar to Apartheid in South Africa or not so but still very bad?