Goering's Europe

Kongzilla

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If there was a three way cold war between Nazi Germany with Goring in charge , NATO and the USSR, who would be the first with a nuclear weapons

I was thinking USSR because without ww2 they might have quite a few einsteins that didn't die from german MG fire and they have the industry and manpower and willingness to kill a lot of their own people to get it done.
 

Nietzsche

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Err didn't Goering chair the bloody Wansee conference?
No. He wasn't even present. I'm not claiming Göring wasn't an anti-semetic bastard, I'm claiming that he doesn't have the murderous rage to conduct the holocaust. Not because he cares for Jews, but because he has better things to do.


And the second Goering took control of the Flying Circus he demonstrated his idiocy and general incompetency in areas of command.

Did it now? Do you have some sources? Most of what I've read(there isn't a whole lot, atleast it seems that way) claimed he was effective and rather proficient in his command of the Flying Circus. I'd really like to see what you've got on the subject. Always enjoy finding new material.
 

Nietzsche

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I don't beleive Goring was bad with the Luftwaffe, it was just the Allies were better with theirs.
Eh. Alot of the Luftwaffe's problems do stem from Goering's interference. Put him as Fueher and have one of his underlings replace him as Oberbefehlshaber and you'll likely have a better-ran Luftwaffe. Many of Goering's underlings w ere far superior to him in that regard.
 
You're pretty much... to be punny, right on the money with regards to funding a program. At one point the American government was quite seriously considering using the silver reserves at Fort Knox to provide material for the Manhattan Project...
IIRC they actually did. The regular metal they would of used, for the calutrons I think it was, was needed for other war industries so they borrowed a couple hundred tons of silver and had it turned into wire. Afterwards they apparently disassembled all the machines, and took up all the floorboards in the factory and incinerated them to reclaim any lost amounts.
 
Who would become Reichsminister of Aviation under Goring? Ernst Udet, Erhard Milch(a jew btw), Albert Kesselring, Wolfram Von Richthofen, Robert Ritter von Greim or Hugo Sperrle?
 
I don't beleive Goring was bad with the Luftwaffe, it was just the Allies were better with theirs.

His squadron suffered relatives few casualties during WWI until he took command, overturning the coordinated air attacks in favor of individual dogfights,which was apparently more glorious.
 
Who would become Reichsminister of Aviation under Goring? Ernst Udet, Erhard Milch(a jew btw), Albert Kesselring, Wolfram Von Richthofen, Robert Ritter von Greim or Hugo Sperrle?

Might be like in Britain where Churchill remained head of the Admirality, despite having many screwups in the past.
 

Nietzsche

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Might be like in Britain where Churchill remained head of the Admirality, despite having many screwups in the past.
I think Goering would be the de jure head of the Luftwaffe, but the actual running of the operation would be passed to one of his subordinates.
 
Not just an air ace. He was von Richthofen right-hand-man.
No Von Richthofen's right hand man was his adjutant Karl Bodenschatz. Goering wasn't Richthofen's chosen successor either it was Wilhelm Reinhard, but he died test flying a new fighter a few months after Richthofen's death. It was then that Goering was given command of Jagdgeschwader 1.
 
The strange thing is: 1938 he initiated the conference of Munich.

Did he not want the war? But wasting all of Germany's money for arms and then NOT starting a war is also idiotic.
 
The strange thing is: 1938 he initiated the conference of Munich.

Did he not want the war? But wasting all of Germany's money for arms and then NOT starting a war is also idiotic.

Hitler was astonished by the result of the Munich Conference, he fully planned on launching an invasion of Czechoslovakia whatever happened and only agreed to the Conference for PR reasons so he could show he had exhausted every possible diplomatic approach to the "ongoing slaughter" of the Sudeten Germans.
 
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