Goering Visits the U.S. in 1937

Geon

Donor
I have been toying with an idea for some time and would like some input on this from others.

Consider the following scenario.

In 1935-36 Hermann Goering successfully kicks his morphine addiction for a variety of personal reasons.

In 1936 Charles Lindbergh visits Germany for the Summer Olympics. At that time he broaches the subject of Hermann Goering visiting the U.S. Lindbergh feels having Goering actually visiting the U.S. will help to diffuse any "war talk" on the part of the FDR government. Goering is delighted with the invitation which while not from the U.S. government gives him a chance to really see what things are like in the U.S.

Goering arrives in 1937 on the Hindenburg. Because the Reich marshal is on board the crew take more then usual precautions and the air ship arrives in New Jersey safely.

As the guest of Lindbergh Goering spends about three months in the U.S. He is very impressed by what he sees and his attitude that the Americans can only produce "refrigerators and razor blades" quickly dissipates. He realizes that in a war American industrial capability would be formidable.

After three months he returns to German and reports to Hitler.

What would Goering's report look like?

How might it effect Hitler's conduct of the war? And how might it effect his relationships with the U.S.?
 
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Asami

Banned
If I'm not mistaken, Hitler already admired the United States but lamented that it was being 'polluted by the negro and Jew'; as well as lacking a culture that wasn't 'half-negrified and half-Jew' which made it unsuitable for his NWO.
 
I dont think it would have mattered - about the same effect as Yamamoto's reports about America. America's industrial capacity wasnt exactly a state secret. Both Hitler and the Japanese had a romanticized idea of what willpower/honor could accomplish. Their concepts of their own moral superiority and its assumed consequences werent going to be swayed by something like industrial capacity.
 
I wonder what things Goering would do different since he had seen the US and was no longer addicted? In those parts of the economy that he controlled would he look at incorporating American mass production model? Would he reach out to people like Henry Ford to put more production factories in Germany? While Henry Ford was a well know anti Semitic, I am sure that there were other businessmen who agreed with the Nazis on race issues. They might be receptive to buying seized Jewish factories and expanding them with American money.

Also would Goering not be as boastful and retain his influence with Hitler. If so he may get the DOW delayed. Also it is my understanding that he was not as antisemitic as some of the other Nazis. He was more interested in what he could gain in terms of money and prestige. If he could make money off of Jewish doctors, engineers, skilled craftmen, and so on, would he keep them save so that he could get rich off of their hard work? I had also read some where that some Jewish groups thought that they could buy freedom for some Jews by paying Goering. Would he pull strings for some Jews to get visas out of Germany in exchange for money?

Any thoughts?

Stubear1012
 
Goering could possibly reach for deeper economic ties with America, particularly with certain powerful companies. And I can see future Nazi visits to America for strategic reasons. However, this will do little to heal Roosevelt's general contempt for Germany and so strong ties between the two countries is out of the question as long as he's in power. But if the Nazis avoid general war and gain strong support from the American public (since the Jim Crow laws were still in place), a different American president could be elected and seek strong ties to the Reich. This would butterfly so many elements and the end result may be fascinating. And, now that Goering is free from morphine, he's now destined to succeed Hitler as the new Fuhrer.
 
.... In those parts of the economy that he controlled would he look at incorporating American mass production model? Would he reach out to people like Henry Ford to put more production factories in Germany?...

They were trying, but the US businessmen like Ford, Dupont, Rockefeller, were bumping up against margin limits in the Depression era European economy. The nazis were at their limits in their ability to subsidize larger US investment.

While Henry Ford was a well know anti Semitic, I am sure that there were other businessmen who agreed with the Nazis on race issues. They might be receptive to buying seized Jewish factories and expanding them with American money.

They did, tho German businessmen already had most of the former Jewish business in their hands. Plus the Jews never had as large a portion of the German economy as nazi propaganda claimed. It was mostly small businesses.
 
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