Modern depiction of Æthestan Eadmundson of Godwinson, portrayed in the TV series "The Empire of the Godwinson".
"God Ænd Minh Riht" An Anglo-Saxon England under the Godwinson house.
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Modern depiction of Æthestan Eadmundson of Godwinson, portrayed in the TV series "The Empire of the Godwinson".
King Eadmund III months before his death accompanied by his nephew Leofwine.
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Interesting will it be Eleanor of Aquitaine or is that too obvious there is also possibility of going on crusade for each Anglo Saxon king or even possibly Anglo-Aquitaine.
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I was Proposing a situation similar to the empire which can Henry II of England game through marriage and inheritance except with just Aquitaine being incorporated into the English crown which would create conflict with France and possibly the Spanish kingdoms.
It is possible, maybe the Anglo-Aquitaine asserts dominance in the Mediterranean, but honestly I don’t see the point of uniting two crowns that are far away, maybe a marriage with a French Princess/Prince will be more useful and plausible, in the next update I will expand French lore a bit.
An independent Aquitaine is more interesting, though, also we could see a reprisal war in Denmark after the assassination of the king, father in law of one of the most powerful nobles in Angland.
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That makes more sense Saxon England was more geared towards Scandinavia than mainland Europe. But with that stated England my start looking at the mainland Europe and the British isles because Denmark and Norway and Viking age ended with death of harald hardrada.
Chapter VII The Adventures and Tribulations of William Clito.
Chapter VII.
The Adventures and Tribulations of William Clito.
"William Clito reign was tough, demanding and without respite for him or his collaborators, but this constant struggle made him the most resilient and hard working man in all of France."
Jean-Marie Maurras in "The Complete History of Northern France".
After the assassination of the duke Robert II in the seventh day of July of 1119 by his brother William during a discussion regarding the Anglish question, William Clito fled to Flanders and waged war against his uncle.
The war lasted five years, ending in the Battle of Alençon, after which William was captured by Clito and executed.
Robert Belleme was one of the key supporters of Clito and was rewarded with more land that in the past belonged to his uncle, making him one of the most powerful nobles in the area.
His uncle Richard remained loyal because a far more attractive feudal contract was given to him.
After this he had to fight against Teodoric of Alsace, claimant to the county of Flanders, supported by a popular revolt, he convinced the French king to come in his aid, together they defeated and captured Teodoric, he was blinded by William.
After this he tried to earn the respect of the flemings by lowering taxes and giving them some autonomy.
Autumn of 1128 saw the birth of boy, named Robert by his father, the heir of Clito was finally there after years of stillbirts and spontaneous abortions.
In 1130 he reclaimed Maine, in that moment in hands of Geoffrey Anjou, he defeated him in the siege of Maine and forced him to abandon both the claim and the domain.
This humiliating defeat never was forgiven nor forgotten by the Anjou, leaving a mark in the name of the dinasty.
After finally securing his position in northern France he dedicated the rest of his life to be a fair and wise duke, improving the situation of many peasants after granting them the right to hunt in the duke lands, improved the education and patronized artists and teachers, protected the freedom of the church and started the construction of roads and ports to improve commerce with the rest of France and Europe.
He finally died in 1143 of old age, his beloved son Robert was 15 years old when he passed away.
The Adventures and Tribulations of William Clito.
"William Clito reign was tough, demanding and without respite for him or his collaborators, but this constant struggle made him the most resilient and hard working man in all of France."
Jean-Marie Maurras in "The Complete History of Northern France".
After the assassination of the duke Robert II in the seventh day of July of 1119 by his brother William during a discussion regarding the Anglish question, William Clito fled to Flanders and waged war against his uncle.
The war lasted five years, ending in the Battle of Alençon, after which William was captured by Clito and executed.
Robert Belleme was one of the key supporters of Clito and was rewarded with more land that in the past belonged to his uncle, making him one of the most powerful nobles in the area.
His uncle Richard remained loyal because a far more attractive feudal contract was given to him.
After this he had to fight against Teodoric of Alsace, claimant to the county of Flanders, supported by a popular revolt, he convinced the French king to come in his aid, together they defeated and captured Teodoric, he was blinded by William.
After this he tried to earn the respect of the flemings by lowering taxes and giving them some autonomy.
Autumn of 1128 saw the birth of boy, named Robert by his father, the heir of Clito was finally there after years of stillbirts and spontaneous abortions.
In 1130 he reclaimed Maine, in that moment in hands of Geoffrey Anjou, he defeated him in the siege of Maine and forced him to abandon both the claim and the domain.
This humiliating defeat never was forgiven nor forgotten by the Anjou, leaving a mark in the name of the dinasty.
After finally securing his position in northern France he dedicated the rest of his life to be a fair and wise duke, improving the situation of many peasants after granting them the right to hunt in the duke lands, improved the education and patronized artists and teachers, protected the freedom of the church and started the construction of roads and ports to improve commerce with the rest of France and Europe.
He finally died in 1143 of old age, his beloved son Robert was 15 years old when he passed away.
Ok.
For starters both elements are mostly anachronistic. The black lion on gold was adopted by Phillip the son of Theodoric/Dietrich/Thierry of Alsace and shows the gold field that the Alsace family began using (compare the arms of Upper Lorraine and that of Phillip's brother Matthew who became Count of Boulogne), his lion is probably from that of Anjou his mother's house.
The gold lions for Normandy were adopted following the Anjou ascension but a plain red field was considered that of England under the Normans so is probably Norman.
However a gold field did end up for Holland, Denmark, and Hainaut, all of which had links with and members who ruled Flanders, and lions did become popular in arms throughout the low countries and north sea.
The Gelre Armorial depicts Ancient/Old Flanders as using a gironny (of 12) of gold and blue with a red shield at the heart (or inescutcheon). Your later painting of Clito shows him with a similar shield.
So I'd go with that as a basis.
What you could do to alter it is expand the red shield more and add a rampant lion overall the shield (not just the red one to avoid the gironny being seen as a bordure). White would work with the colours.
Or dispense with the red shield and have it be a red rampant lion instead.
Later Dukes & Counts could give it two tails much like Limburg-Luxembourg.
Thanks Professor, you are truly helpful and intelligent!
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