Go North, Young Man: The Great Canada

I wonder if the Canadians might consider installing Pom-Poms or Bofors 40 mm guns on their ships before and during the early months of the war.

Given that both Britain and the US both showed interest before in the Bofors 40mm AA gun before the start of the Second World War started, it's entirely possible. Quite a bit of modification would be necessary though.
Link: Bofors 40 mm/60 Model 1936
 

Ming777

Monthly Donor
Given the cruisers Canada is building near the start of the war, they might be the first to fit them.

HMCS Canada could get some early on, given how much room is available on board.
 
Part 1 - Pre-Confederation

Canada began as the result of a desire of Britain to avoid the problems that had resulted in the American revolution, well aware that the Quebec Act had been considered by many of the American Revolutionaries alongside the four 'Intolerable Acts' that had been a primary catalyst to the Revolution. Well aware of the actions of William Lyon Mackenzie and Louis-Joseph Papineau and seeking to assimilate the French-Canadian population of Quebec, Britain's attempt at first establishing control of Canada in the Union Act of 1840 had indeed had the opposite effect, as it became obvious that both complete anglicization of the French-Canadian population was unlikely and ultimately resisting integration into the United States was dependent on a form of political independence.

But what started Canada's evolution even beyond the need to find accommodations between English and French speaking peoples in Canada was the problems that Canada's native population, who had been supporters of the British during the War of 1812 and had fought alongside those who had sought to repulse the Americans. While America was defeated in the war, it was obvious almost immediately after the War that the Americans had absolutely no intention of treating Native Americans with respect, and it showed in their movements, particularly after the war - thus forcing the British to either accept what amounted to cultural genocide or allow the Natives to establish themselves in Canada. By the time of the Rebellions of 1837 Native Canadians had moved into Canada in numbers, and the knowledge of the problems that Washington had inflicted on the Six Nations Confederacy and the Shawnee in particular resulted in huge numbers of the Native Canadians migrating into Canada, forming nearly an outright majority in portions of southern and eastern Upper Canada. The Six Nations, wedged between a rock and a hard place with the British (many of whom had open disdain for them) and the Americans (widely seen as far worse than the British), found themselves becoming adamant supporters of the reform efforts, seeking to peacefully carve themselves out a place among the groups of Canadians, and doing so in many cases by both trading with European colonists and also through their own systems of collective defense. The Indian Removal policy of the United States, passed in 1830, accelerated this trend, somewhat to the disdain of some but the support of the reformers and those opposed to the Americans, well aware of the efforts of Tecumseh and his efforts to rouse the tribes to the defense of their land during the War of 1812. The knowledge of the very poor relationship between America and the native tribes led to more than a little bit of gamesmanship by the British. While eventually relations between London and its colony grew to be fairly cordial, America's past wasn't forgotten and in more than a cases forgiven, particularly with the Fenian Raids. The Native Canadian influence would be seen in the Oregon Treaty, which became a problem to the Americans as news of the actions of the Americans further east would ultimately cause the 1846 Oregon Treaty to come apart as Native tribes, in no small part agitated by British colonial authorities, would not accept American authority over the territory north of the Columbia River. Facing upheaval and the difficulty in controlling territory, the British and Washington ratified the new Oregon Treaty, which established the boundary as the Columbia River west of the crossing of the Columbia River and the 49th parallel, thus giving the entire Salish Sea region to the British. The discovery of gold on the banks of the Thompson River in 1858 forced a major change in the way the region was governed, and the colony of British Columbia was formed in 1858 as a result. Recognizing that the United States was likely to push for complete ownership of the Pacific Coast, both British colonists and Natives pushed for entry into the new Canadian federation, and British Columbia's representatives were among those who were the signatories of the Seventy-Two Resolutions.

By the 1850s, movement towards confederation was seen as inevitably, as men like John A. MacDonald sought to unite factions behind the idea of Canada as a federation, seeking the support of the likes of George Brown and Georges-Etienne Cartier - and to the initial surprise of MacDonald, both Cartier and Brown were publicly supportive of the Six Nations' involvement in Canadian affairs. While the relationship here would remain rocky for many years to come, the tactics of negotiation honed by those seeking to establish Canada as a federation were indeed assisted by the involvement of Native Canadians, and while racism against them would not by any means sink away, in the aftermath of the Indian Removal policies Canada came to be seen as something of a haven for some tribes of North American Indians, an image which would prove to be a massive benefit to Canada's future expansion. Indeed British Columbia's entry into Canada would come to pass in large part because of the Natives of the West Coast, who while plenty suspicious of the British had even less love for the United States. Confederation of the British North American colonies was seen by London as a way of allowing Canada to defend itself against the Americans, while the British in North America saw it as a way of forever establishing a loyal to Britain nation on the North American continent, the French saw it as a way of increasing their own political power and resisting creeping Anglicization of their culture and for Native Canadians of providing themselves a real safe haven from the Americans. Entry into Confederation for British Columbia came with the promise of safety, but their isolation was such that their primary stipulation was that they be connected to the rest of Canada by rail by 1877 - a tall order, but noting the rapid construction of the Transcontinental Railroad in the United States, Victoria felt it was a stipulation that they could make, particularly with their desire to give the British Ocean a connection to the Pacific Ocean.

The American Civil War added to the impetus for Confederation. Britain had not officially supported the Confederacy in America's brutal civil war, but American politicians in the aftermath of the war were more than willing to call for America to expel the British from North America, and problems with everything from population pressures (an increasingly-acute problem in the St. Lawrence River Valley and parts of the Maritime Provinces) to desires to exploit the resources that many felt existed in the Rupert's Land territories controlled by the Hudson's Bay Company pushed confederation along. The American purchase of Alaska in 1867 added to it, even though Confederation had been agreed to before the purchase was completed, it was seen by the Fathers of Confederation (and indeed Queen Victoria, who was more than happy to give assent to the move) as a way of heading off America's expansionism. The entry of British Columbia into the constitutional delegation was followed by those of Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, but while the former would join Confederation, the latter chose not to. (This decision would change later on.) On March 29, 1867, the British North America Act was given assent by Queen Victoria, with the Federation of Canada (the 'Dominion' name was rejected out of consideration for the many diverse populations of the country and a desire to seem in control of its own affairs) becoming a reality on July 1, with John A. MacDonald as the first Prime Minister of Canada, with six provinces as part of Canada - Ontario, Quebec,
Part 1 - Pre-Confederation

Canada began as the result of a desire of Britain to avoid the problems that had resulted in the American revolution, well aware that the Quebec Act had been considered by many of the American Revolutionaries alongside the four 'Intolerable Acts' that had been a primary catalyst to the Revolution. Well aware of the actions of William Lyon Mackenzie and Louis-Joseph Papineau and seeking to assimilate the French-Canadian population of Quebec, Britain's attempt at first establishing control of Canada in the Union Act of 1840 had indeed had the opposite effect, as it became obvious that both complete anglicization of the French-Canadian population was unlikely and ultimately resisting integration into the United States was dependent on a form of political independence.

But what started Canada's evolution even beyond the need to find accommodations between English and French speaking peoples in Canada was the problems that Canada's native population, who had been supporters of the British during the War of 1812 and had fought alongside those who had sought to repulse the Americans. While America was defeated in the war, it was obvious almost immediately after the War that the Americans had absolutely no intention of treating Native Americans with respect, and it showed in their movements, particularly after the war - thus forcing the British to either accept what amounted to cultural genocide or allow the Natives to establish themselves in Canada. By the time of the Rebellions of 1837 Native Canadians had moved into Canada in numbers, and the knowledge of the problems that Washington had inflicted on the Six Nations Confederacy and the Shawnee in particular resulted in huge numbers of the Native Canadians migrating into Canada, forming nearly an outright majority in portions of southern and eastern Upper Canada. The Six Nations, wedged between a rock and a hard place with the British (many of whom had open disdain for them) and the Americans (widely seen as far worse than the British), found themselves becoming adamant supporters of the reform efforts, seeking to peacefully carve themselves out a place among the groups of Canadians, and doing so in many cases by both trading with European colonists and also through their own systems of collective defense. The Indian Removal policy of the United States, passed in 1830, accelerated this trend, somewhat to the disdain of some but the support of the reformers and those opposed to the Americans, well aware of the efforts of Tecumseh and his efforts to rouse the tribes to the defense of their land during the War of 1812. The knowledge of the very poor relationship between America and the native tribes led to more than a little bit of gamesmanship by the British. While eventually relations between London and its colony grew to be fairly cordial, America's past wasn't forgotten and in more than a cases forgiven, particularly with the Fenian Raids. The Native Canadian influence would be seen in the Oregon Treaty, which became a problem to the Americans as news of the actions of the Americans further east would ultimately cause the 1846 Oregon Treaty to come apart as Native tribes, in no small part agitated by British colonial authorities, would not accept American authority over the territory north of the Columbia River. Facing upheaval and the difficulty in controlling territory, the British and Washington ratified the new Oregon Treaty, which established the boundary as the Columbia River west of the crossing of the Columbia River and the 49th parallel, thus giving the entire Salish Sea region to the British. The discovery of gold on the banks of the Thompson River in 1858 forced a major change in the way the region was governed, and the colony of British Columbia was formed in 1858 as a result. Recognizing that the United States was likely to push for complete ownership of the Pacific Coast, both British colonists and Natives pushed for entry into the new Canadian federation, and British Columbia's representatives were among those who were the signatories of the Seventy-Two Resolutions.

By the 1850s, movement towards confederation was seen as inevitably, as men like John A. MacDonald sought to unite factions behind the idea of Canada as a federation, seeking the support of the likes of George Brown and Georges-Etienne Cartier - and to the initial surprise of MacDonald, both Cartier and Brown were publicly supportive of the Six Nations' involvement in Canadian affairs. While the relationship here would remain rocky for many years to come, the tactics of negotiation honed by those seeking to establish Canada as a federation were indeed assisted by the involvement of Native Canadians, and while racism against them would not by any means sink away, in the aftermath of the Indian Removal policies Canada came to be seen as something of a haven for some tribes of North American Indians, an image which would prove to be a massive benefit to Canada's future expansion. Indeed British Columbia's entry into Canada would come to pass in large part because of the Natives of the West Coast, who while plenty suspicious of the British had even less love for the United States. Confederation of the British North American colonies was seen by London as a way of allowing Canada to defend itself against the Americans, while the British in North America saw it as a way of forever establishing a loyal to Britain nation on the North American continent, the French saw it as a way of increasing their own political power and resisting creeping Anglicization of their culture and for Native Canadians of providing themselves a real safe haven from the Americans. Entry into Confederation for British Columbia came with the promise of safety, but their isolation was such that their primary stipulation was that they be connected to the rest of Canada by rail by 1877 - a tall order, but noting the rapid construction of the Transcontinental Railroad in the United States, Victoria felt it was a stipulation that they could make, particularly with their desire to give the British Ocean a connection to the Pacific Ocean.

The American Civil War added to the impetus for Confederation. Britain had not officially supported the Confederacy in America's brutal civil war, but American politicians in the aftermath of the war were more than willing to call for America to expel the British from North America, and problems with everything from population pressures (an increasingly-acute problem in the St. Lawrence River Valley and parts of the Maritime Provinces) to desires to exploit the resources that many felt existed in the Rupert's Land territories controlled by the Hudson's Bay Company pushed confederation along. The American purchase of Alaska in 1867 added to it, even though Confederation had been agreed to before the purchase was completed, it was seen by the Fathers of Confederation (and indeed Queen Victoria, who was more than happy to give assent to the move) as a way of heading off America's expansionism. The entry of British Columbia into the constitutional delegation was followed by those of Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, but while the former would join Confederation, the latter chose not to. (This decision would change later on.) On March 29, 1867, the British North America Act was given assent by Queen Victoria, with the Federation of Canada (the 'Dominion' name was rejected out of consideration for the many diverse populations of the country and a desire to seem in control of its own affairs) becoming a reality on July 1, with John A. MacDonald as the first Prime Minister of Canada, with six provinces as part of Canada - Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and British Columbia.

The original plan of building Canada in the minds of many of its founders was that Confederation, which while granting Canada a wide degree of autonomy was far from complete independence from the United Kingdom, would allow Canada to both satisfy demands for more local control of its own affairs while at the same time remaining a devout member of the British Empire. Within a generation, however, new minds and ideas would arise which would change everything about Canada and its future as a nation....

EDIT: I had Alaska go both ways. Whoops.

Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and British Columbia.

The original plan of building Canada in the minds of many of its founders was that Confederation, which while granting Canada a wide degree of autonomy was far from complete independence from the United Kingdom, would allow Canada to both satisfy demands for more local control of its own affairs while at the same time remaining a devout member of the British Empire. Within a generation, however, new minds and ideas would arise which would change everything about Canada and its future as a nation....

EDIT: I had Alaska go both ways. Whoops.
 
I would push for the Columbia-Kootenay river. This would Canada an easier route from Crows Nest Pass to OTL Vancouver Washington. As it is now, trains would have to in and out of the US to get to get from Crows Nest to Vancouver.
 
Another thing that occurs on the naval front: Light Coastal forces.
With more investment in diesel propulsion, we might see a commonwealth craft
with similar speed to the E boat rather than the Steam Gunboat.
These could do some serious damage in say, the Aleutians.
 
Here's several links on various Canadian aviation projects. This might be helpful.

*Late '50s Avro Canada Projects
**Avro CF-105 and its variants
**Avro Canada C-102 Jetliner
**Early Avro Canada C.102 Jetliner Studies
*Canadair CL-21
*Canadair CL-41R
*Canadair CL-99 military cargo transport project
*Canadair CL-204
*Canadair CL-246 STOL Transport
*Canadair CL-610
*De Havilland Canada Transport Projects
*Venga TG-10 advanced trainer

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Ming777

Monthly Donor
I think an immediate question is whether the Canada's might consider having escort carriers or light carriers early on to help escort the convoys. Perhaps see if Britain or the Americans is willing to cooperate and let them have a fleet carrier by the end of the war.
 
I'd say escort carriers are pretty much a given. Maybe a feasability study involving
a Unicorn hull, most of the maintanance stuff removed and a diesel engine for extra
speed. Dust it off once the war starts and Canada will have its own homegrown light
carriers from mid-late war onwards.
 
Not quite sure why you guys are fascinated with capital ships (battleships and cruisers) because Canada could only afford one or two, and each one would need a dozen escorts (destroyers, Oilers, submarines, etc.) those escorts would be better used to escort Trans-Atlantic convoys.

The other issue is the cost (spares, training, dockyards, gunnery ranges, different ammo, etc.) for one or two specialized ships.
Since schools, etc. can be really expensive, RCN would need to send crews to RN schools. Next thing you know, Canadian cruisers would serve alongside RN capital ships and Ottawa would lose control of where or when they fought.
This would also perpetuate the myth (among RCN officers) that only time served aboard capital ships counted towards promotions. During the 1950s this cultural split provoked mutinies aboard a couple of RCN ships.

Finally, why invest in an obsolete class of ship? Have any battleships been built since 1945?
Far wiser to invest in escort carriers that serve RCN's primary role in both WWs: convoy escort.
 

Ming777

Monthly Donor
Notice that Canada only has one capital ship, purchased in the hey day of the big gun warships. The cruisers meanwhile are useful for a variety of operations, from surface combat to AA support, with Canada potentially going to get more involvement in the Pacific. HMCS Canada here is in many ways a predecessor to the Iowa-class, with high speed, radar-directed gunfire, and the ability to carry loads of AA guns. Plus with more armour than Hood, she is more fast battleship than battlecruiser.

This doesn't mean that Canada isn't going to play a big role in the War of the Atlantic. Those Seaplane Tenders will undoubtedly be important for dealing with U-Boats, and Canada is building plenty of destroyers and presumably some ASW convoy escorts, given they had dealt with U-Boats in WWI. With the early POD, the additional population and resources mean Canada can afford to spend more on a better navy which can help them in the Post War era.
 
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With canada's experience in making tanks during ww1 what can we expect for canada and the rest of the british empire in terms of tanks by ww2?
 
With canada's experience in making tanks during ww1 what can we expect for canada and the rest of the british empire in terms of tanks by ww2?
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We discussed Australian/Canadian cooperation on the "British universal tank" thread.
Some of us believe that by the mid-1930s both Australia and Canada would recognize that they could not depend upon Britain to arm their fighting men. So Australia builds a Sentinel prototype and Canada builds a Ram 1 prototype. Both have sloped, cast hulls and turrets, but include plenty of places to bolt on additional armour, spare tracks, crew lockers, etc.

ANZAC and Canadian exchange officers do tours in each others' tank regiments and compare notes. Increased cooperation leads to combining the best features of Sentinel and Ram tanks. Later Marks of the Commonwealth tank sport large, bolt-on, gun mantlets that make them easier to up-gun as opponents up-armour their tanks.
 
As I suggested in "CANLOAN 46" during the 1930s, the RCAF realizes that they cannot depend upon Great Britain to supply enough airplanes, contract with Canadian factories to build American pattern planes under license.
After they finish the Hurricane contract, Canadian Car and Foundry sub-contracts to build stainless steel components for Budd Conestoga. Sure Conestoga Mark 1 is crude, but by the Mark 3, Conestogas can almost compete with DC-3s on speed and load-carrying capacity.
Earlier development of Low Altitude Parachute Extraction Systems turn the tide at Arnhem.
Post war, surplus Conestogas prove popular with mining companies in Northern Canada.

Meanwhile, Fleet still builds huge stacks of trainers, but acquires larger tooling as they sub-contract to build more and more parts for American factories.

Victory Aircraft only build a few Lancasters but P.M. King soon tires of writting letters of condolence to orphans and widows of downed bomber crews. P.M. King refuses to train anymore Canadian turret gunners.
Victory Aircraft builds more than just one prototype Avro York transports. Later Marks of Yorks with American radial engines, nose wheels and cargo ramps under the tail.
This decision means that most of the Packard Merlins go to deHavilland of Canada to power Mosquitos. DHC adds strands to horizontal and vertical stabilizers to take handling at low speeds.
 
More Canadian planes means more Canadian airforce units earlier, and fewer Canadians in RAF units. I like the Conestoga idea though.
 
I wonder if the Canadians might consider installing Pom-Poms or Bofors 40 mm guns on their ships before and during the early months of the war.

Given that both Britain and the US both showed interest before in the Bofors 40mm AA gun before the start of the Second World War started, it's entirely possible. Quite a bit of modification would be necessary though.
Link: Bofors 40 mm/60 Model 1936

This, pretty much. Canada early on is looking at the Pom-Pom for AA usage, but as with the Chicago Piano the Americans used, its being inferior to the 40mm Bofors will become apparent. Early on the Bofors get used, but by 1942-43, the Bofors is standard equipment on the Canadian warships.

Given the cruisers Canada is building near the start of the war, they might be the first to fit them.

HMCS Canada could get some early on, given how much room is available on board.

As above, the Canada will have a vast number of AA guns and so will the cruisers (remember that the Montreal-class cruisers are meant for shore bombardment, anti-aircraft and smaller ship support duties, which makes having as many anti-aircraft guns as possible a must) and will be well-prepared for its duties.

Has the League been affected by the different Canadian government or is it still the same?

Not really. While Canada (and in the run up to war, Australia and New Zealand as well) are rather more vocal about the appeasement of Hitler and Mussolini, it doesn't have much in the way of impact.

I would push for the Columbia-Kootenay river. This would Canada an easier route from Crows Nest Pass to OTL Vancouver Washington. As it is now, trains would have to in and out of the US to get to get from Crows Nest to Vancouver.

They weren't really thinking railways when the agreement was created, as the Americans only gave it up because they didn't have any people there (Seattle, Portland and Vancouver didn't exist yet) and the Columbia was a nice boundary. Beyond that, both the Canadian Pacific and Canadian National railways have their entire transcontinental routes in Canadian territory, and the CPR is the largest shareholder in both the Northern Pacific and Great Northern, which will cause a bit of railroad zaniness later on.

Another thing that occurs on the naval front: Light Coastal forces.
With more investment in diesel propulsion, we might see a commonwealth craft
with similar speed to the E boat rather than the Steam Gunboat.
These could do some serious damage in say, the Aleutians.

You will most certainly see that, and with Reynard-Napier turbodiesel engines, the collaboration between the two makers allowing the famed Deltic to begin seeing RN and RCN service in 1941, and the Deltic will be a very, very common sight in Canadian warships from then until the advent of gas turbines in the 1960s. The United States will notice, too, but they won't have such vessels in time for the Aleutians. But they will most certainly wreck havoc on the Japanese when the Marines start their island hopping....

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Not a chance in hell. The Royal Canadian Air Force will be very proud of the Arrow, and there will be much more in store for that industry and the Air Force as well.

I think an immediate question is whether the Canada's might consider having escort carriers or light carriers early on to help escort the convoys. Perhaps see if Britain or the Americans is willing to cooperate and let them have a fleet carrier by the end of the war.

Canada by 1941 will have two dockyards capable of building a fleet carrier, so whether they want to co-operate isn't that important, though it would remain helpful. :) Canada's primary ASW job will stop the building of aircraft carriers until at least mid-1942, but by that time the reduction of the U-boat threat will reduce the priority of the carriers. They will have two or three light carriers by mid-1944, but these won't live long after the war. Canada will have a lot of questions about what to do about its naval forces after the war - them getting into the carrier business is a given, though what form that will take I'm not sure yet.

I'd say escort carriers are pretty much a given. Maybe a feasability study involving
a Unicorn hull, most of the maintanance stuff removed and a diesel engine for extra
speed. Dust it off once the war starts and Canada will have its own homegrown light
carriers from mid-late war onwards.

What about Submarines?

Three Gato-class fleet submarines will be operational by the fall of 1941, though Canadian Gatos used British torpedoes, Canadian-design batteries and Deltic engines, the latter two making them superior in performance (though admittedly weaker in range) than their American counterparts. Six more will be built by the end of the war. These boats will piss off everyone opposed to them, and I do have an idea that will make one such boat rather famous....

Not quite sure why you guys are fascinated with capital ships (battleships and cruisers) because Canada could only afford one or two, and each one would need a dozen escorts (destroyers, Oilers, submarines, etc.) those escorts would be better used to escort Trans-Atlantic convoys.

The other issue is the cost (spares, training, dockyards, gunnery ranges, different ammo, etc.) for one or two specialized ships.
Since schools, etc. can be really expensive, RCN would need to send crews to RN schools. Next thing you know, Canadian cruisers would serve alongside RN capital ships and Ottawa would lose control of where or when they fought.
This would also perpetuate the myth (among RCN officers) that only time served aboard capital ships counted towards promotions. During the 1950s this cultural split provoked mutinies aboard a couple of RCN ships.

Finally, why invest in an obsolete class of ship? Have any battleships been built since 1945?
Far wiser to invest in escort carriers that serve RCN's primary role in both WWs: convoy escort.

We haven't even gotten to WW2 yet. Battleships are still king at this point.

Notice that Canada only has one capital ship, purchased in the hey day of the big gun warships. The cruisers meanwhile are useful for a variety of operations, from surface combat to AA support, with Canada potentially going to get more involvement in the Pacific. HMCS Canada here is in many ways a predecessor to the Iowa-class, with high speed, radar-directed gunfire, and the ability to carry loads of AA guns. Plus with more armour than Hood, she is more fast battleship than battlecruiser.

This doesn't mean that Canada isn't going to play a big role in the War of the Atlantic. Those Seaplane Tenders will undoubtedly be important for dealing with U-Boats, and Canada is building plenty of destroyers and presumably some ASW convoy escorts, given they had dealt with U-Boats in WWI. With the early POD, the additional population and resources mean Canada can afford to spend more on a better navy which can help them in the Post War era.

Lost Freeway and Ming are spot on. There will be an absolute pile of escorts (and a lot more destroyers than frigates and corvettes, too), and in the war the designs of ship Canada is using will still have uses. The battleship will see tons of shooting action but them and the heavy cruisers are 1920s purchases which will be rapidly decommissioned after WWII for obvious reasons. Beyond that, in this world the Canadian Navy by the outbreak of war can (and at times will) operate as their own battle group. The seaplane tenders and Montreal-class cruisers are both going to see a lot of use in convoy escorts (no U-boat commander with a brain is going to want to face down a cruiser that spits out 6" shells at the rate a Montreal-class cruiser can, torpedoes or not), and any time there happen to be German big guns around, HMCS Canada (which can outrun anything the Germans can toss at it and out-shoot anything aside from Bismarck and Tirpitz) will be out there as well, in case trouble comes. The Seaplane carriers of the RCN will prove invaluable to the convoys, particularly once radar-equipped patrol planes are out and about and Canadian warships are all equipped with surface-search radars and effective weapons for sinking U-boats.

With canada's experience in making tanks during ww1 what can we expect for canada and the rest of the british empire in terms of tanks by ww2?

...................................................................................

We discussed Australian/Canadian cooperation on the "British universal tank" thread.
Some of us believe that by the mid-1930s both Australia and Canada would recognize that they could not depend upon Britain to arm their fighting men. So Australia builds a Sentinel prototype and Canada builds a Ram 1 prototype. Both have sloped, cast hulls and turrets, but include plenty of places to bolt on additional armour, spare tracks, crew lockers, etc.

ANZAC and Canadian exchange officers do tours in each others' tank regiments and compare notes. Increased cooperation leads to combining the best features of Sentinel and Ram tanks. Later Marks of the Commonwealth tank sport large, bolt-on, gun mantlets that make them easier to up-gun as opponents up-armour their tanks.

This makes sense, and Canadian diesel engine expertise also means they have more powerful engines and thus better mobility early on, too. I also had the idea of the Canadians and Australians early on fitting the Churchill tank with 76mm and then 90mm guns and ditching the woefully-underpowered Bedford engine with a Russell-Evans turbodiesel boosting power from the 375 hp of the Bedford for 600 hp or so with the Russell-Evans engine. Later Commonwealth tanks also use more-powerful diesel engines.

More Canadian planes means more Canadian airforce units earlier, and fewer Canadians in RAF units. I like the Conestoga idea though.

I like the Conestoga idea as well, but in this world Canada isn't short of aluminum so it may not make much economic sense for the RCAF to go that way. The RCAF here, however, will be better equipped than IOTL and will do far more damage to Germany (and Japan) than OTL.
 
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