Go North, Young Man: The Great Canada

I really liked the inclusion of HMCS Canada, the Ex-USS America, nice touch. Very worthy successor to Canada's only Battleship.

Its OTL fate was to be sunk as a target. No ship named America should have that fate if you ask me, and with its condition when it was retired, it made sense for it to be the carrier sent to the Canadians, because the Canucks are gonna gut it and rebuild it in their way anyways, which is exactly what happened. As HMCS Canada, the ex-USS America will continue to serve until its replacements are built in the early 2020s.

Has the Somali civil war started on schedule? Perhaps that might go a bit differently. Maybe with Somaliland being recognized and maybe joining the commonwealth? They certainly have a history as part of the British empire.

Edit: got another question:
Is St Piere et Michelin a territory, part of Newfoundland or part of Quebec?

I'm not sure of Somaliland yet simply because to do that we need to have Western troops there again. Maybe OTL until the mid-1990s, when Somaliland finally says 'fuck it, we're out' to Mogadishu, breaks away and then seeks Commonwealth membership and relations with the West. Certainly having it on the West's side would give options both the annoying Saudis and the troublesome Horn of Africa.

And St. Pierre and Miquelon is part of Quebec here.

Excellent update.

Thank You. :)

I like that Dallaire has a better fate ITTL...

He's still got some PTSD (as posted, a lot of Rwanda vets do....what they saw was absolutely horrible), but here, he's both the highest of high-profile mental health advocates and a genuine Canadian hero. He returns to Jerusalem in late summer 1996 as a new commander of the Jerusalem Garrison, staying there for ten years before retiring from the military to become an advocate, then a Senator and subsequently Canada's Defense Minister. He's gonna have a long, long list of post-nominals after his name, too.
 

Ming777

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I wonder if Peurto Rico became a state, perhaps around the same time as the establishment of Canada's Caribbean Provinces. Maybe Alaska was made a state earlier than OTL, with Hawaii and Peurto Rico becoming the 49th and 50th States, respectively.
 
Alright, finally binge read and caught up on this TL.
It's one of my favorites and some of your earlier TL's where what introduced me to AH.com. So I do have a few questions about the world.

Will you be implementing tread marks? Not to big of a deal here with clearly marked chapters but still would be nice.

Belize/British Honduras, what's going on there? I don't think they where mentioned by name at any point. Are they fairly close to Canada? How about Guyana? I went there a few years ago and while the interior is beautiful the capital has streets COVERED in garbage and it nation is quite underdeveloped. I assume with Canada in the Caribbean that the Mainland post British colony's are much closer to Canada than OTL.

Whats the situation in Bermuda?

Would like to clarify Canada's provinces in the Caribbean. Jamaica(+Caymans), Bahamas(+Turks and Caicos), Trin&To, Barbados, and the Caribbean province. Which includes all other lesser Antilles islands that were and are still British OTL?

Where will Canada be launching its rockets from (assuming that they get involved in space exploration beyond what has happened OTL)? Also have the moon landings hapened on the OTL schedule?

What hapened in Tibet? I have picked up on a general butterfly net for most things not directly mentioned but as I understand it the OTL PRC takeover of Tibet took place at the same time at the Korean War so with that going differently I figured I would ask.

I read the first chapter of this TL when it was new and was disappointed to see that you reckoned Canadian Alaska, though I suppose that is what's realistic. On that subject how was the Alaska boundary dispute settled TTL?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_boundary_dispute
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The dispute between American Alaska and northern BC is carried over from Russian Alaska. The settlement by arbitration OTL is considered to have favored the US claim, was the result different TTL? The Green claim is pretty extreme to be sure, it would have the OTL Alaskan capital be in Canada. But we definitely could have done better than OTL I have read this was partly a result of Britain not pushing it OTL to try and get better relations with the USA.

Avro Arrow! I never new much about that until I did a school project on it a few weeks ago and now feel quite disappointed that it got cancelled OTL. Cool to se it in an ATL.
I think this got missed as I posted it right beafore an update. Especially interested in the Alaska-BC border.
 
Sorry I missed this earlier Cool Eh. Here's some responses for ya. :)

Alright, finally binge read and caught up on this TL.
It's one of my favorites and some of your earlier TL's where what introduced me to AH.com. So I do have a few questions about the world.

Well thank you, and I do hope you have been inspired. I'm binging on doing TLs that are positive because a lot of people make dystopias, and I'd rather not do that if I can help it. :) Besides, I seem to have developed a certain readership here who likes them, so I'm gonna stay at it.

Will you be implementing tread marks? Not to big of a deal here with clearly marked chapters but still would be nice.

I'll probably stick with the marked chapters because that makes it easier for me to work with when I write things out on my computers.

Belize/British Honduras, what's going on there? I don't think they where mentioned by name at any point. Are they fairly close to Canada? How about Guyana? I went there a few years ago and while the interior is beautiful the capital has streets COVERED in garbage and it nation is quite underdeveloped. I assume with Canada in the Caribbean that the Mainland post British colony's are much closer to Canada than OTL.

Belize is part of Canada, in this case part of the province of Jamaica. It wasn't included in the original 1950s and 1960s proposal, but chose to join in 1972 after it left direct British jurisdiction. Its one of the more underdeveloped portions of Canada at this point, but as Mexico develops (and it is doing so ITTL) that will change dramatically.

Guyana is independent, but pretty much joined at the hip with Canada and they like it that way - more Guyanese live in Canada than in Guyana, and the two are joined at the hip in terms of economics. That suits Canada, however, as one of Canada's larger developments in the region has been to turn Guyana into a transshipment point for goods headed to Canada (particularly the Caribbean) from Latin America and exporting gold, bauxite, natural latex, exotic woods and a huge amount of agricultural products, getting back machinery, fuel and manufactured goods in return. Ottawa is good to them as well, and the country's growing tourist industry is mostly Canadians.

Whats the situation in Bermuda?

OTL, pretty much, except for the fact that the RN and RCN operate frequently out of Bermuda and use it for a base.

Would like to clarify Canada's provinces in the Caribbean. Jamaica(+Caymans), Bahamas(+Turks and Caicos), Trin&To, Barbados, and the Caribbean province. Which includes all other lesser Antilles islands that were and are still British OTL?

All British territories in the Western Hemisphere (aside from Bermuda and the Falklands) are now part of Canada. The provinces are arranged as:

Bahamas
(capital: Nassau)
- OTL Bahamas, Turks and Caicos
Jamaica (capital: Kingston)
- Jamaica, Cayman Islands, British Honduras (aka Belize)
Trinidad and Tobago (capital: Port of Spain)
- As OTL's nation of Trinidad and Tobago
Barbados (capital: Bridgetown)
- OTL's nation of Barbados
Caribbean Islands (capital: Roseau)
- Grenada, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, St. Lucia, Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda, Monserrat, St. Kitts and Nevis, Anguilla, British Virgin Islands

I hope this helps. :)

Where will Canada be launching its rockets from (assuming that they get involved in space exploration beyond what has happened OTL)? Also have the moon landings hapened on the OTL schedule?

Moon landings happened on OTL schedule, and Canada's space program piggybacks on other countries, particularly the Americans. The Canadarm still happens, and Canada is building pieces for the International Space Station. They will be doing more later, but for now we're just helping others. Canada will be looking at its own satellites soon, though, but they kinda can't exactly send spy satellites up on somebody else's spacecraft....

What hapened in Tibet? I have picked up on a general butterfly net for most things not directly mentioned but as I understand it the OTL PRC takeover of Tibet took place at the same time at the Korean War so with that going differently I figured I would ask.

I don't know how that could go differently. Anybody else deploying to the area in numbers would be all but impossible, so I think that's kinda stuck with OTL's actions.

I read the first chapter of this TL when it was new and was disappointed to see that you reckoned Canadian Alaska, though I suppose that is what's realistic. On that subject how was the Alaska boundary dispute settled TTL?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_boundary_dispute
View attachment 305800 The dispute between American Alaska and northern BC is carried over from Russian Alaska. The settlement by arbitration OTL is considered to have favored the US claim, was the result different TTL? The Green claim is pretty extreme to be sure, it would have the OTL Alaskan capital be in Canada. But we definitely could have done better than OTL I have read this was partly a result of Britain not pushing it OTL to try and get better relations with the USA.

What I had in mind for Alaska was for Canada and Britain to go with the OTL claim, but with one notable exception, that being that the town of Skagway and the area around it goes to Canada, which the Americans allow because the Canadians controlled the Yukon and Skagway was a lawless hellhole before the Gold Rush and an absolute mess after it. This, of course, gives Canada the complete Yukon Pass route, which the Americans don't care about because any ship traffic to Skagway has to go through their waters. It's a distinction that by the end of the Gold Rush means nothing, but Canada wants the Yukon Pass route under its control and gets it, and decades later they start using Skagway as a Pacific port after Canadian National Railways rebuilds the railroad between Whitehorse and Skagway in the 1940s. This, of course, also kick-starts the building of a rail line to Alaska, which CNR and the British Columbia Railway finish in 1955 and begin direct rail service from the Lower 48 to Alaska in 1958.

Avro Arrow! I never new much about that until I did a school project on it a few weeks ago and now feel quite disappointed that it got cancelled OTL. Cool to se it in an ATL.

ITTL, its in RCAF service from 1962 until its final retirement in 1998, with interceptor versions lasting until 1993 (spending operational lives in Europe, mainland Canada and the Caribbean and seeing active service in Operation Desert Storm) and the last reconnaissance versions retired in 1998. The very first production Arrow today resides in the Canadian Museum of Civilization, the second at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum and a bunch of others at other museums, as well as a bunch of them becoming gate guards and a number of them sold, demilitarized of course, to suitably wealthy and connected private individuals. By the late 1990s both IOTL and ITTL there was a real growth of very wealthy private pilots who wanted to (and were both skilled, dedicated and intelligent enough to) fly private jets, and ITTL a civilian-owned Avro Arrow, owing to the fact its faster than hell and yet not that difficult to fly for a jet of its era, is a real sign of a great and dedicated private jet pilot, and the list of private Arrow owners is quite a list. Orenda is only too happy to provide support for such jet jocks who wanna imagine themselves as RCAF and RAF pilots in the 1960s, and organizations in Canada, Britain and elsewhere can and do provide support for the owners.
 
Caribbean Islands (capital: Roseau)
- Grenada, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, St. Lucia, Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda, Monserrat, St. Kitts and Nevis, Anguilla, British Virgin Islands
So... does this mean we can claim Alexander Hamiton for Canada?
 
Damn it, I always miss updates from this wonderful TL because for some reason it doesn't show up on my Alert.
 
Did Guatemala's claim on Belize affect it's relationship with Canada since Belize is part of the province of Jamaica? And what does Canada do when Monserrat errupts in the 1990's since that's in the Province of the Carribbean Islands?
 
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Hi.

First time here and I absolutely love the different timeline - very in-depth and intriguing.

The last post on the Toronto Games and how you mentioned Jarvis Street and the landscape within and around the St. Lawrence Neighbourhood is very striking. This is because I live in that neighbourhood and have been for all my life. It is for me a bit interesting to see the neighbourhood to be so built up with massive skyscrapers while in our timeline it's mainly low-rise apartments, office buildings, and historic buildings. To say the least, it will hard to recognize especially considering all sides of our neighbourhood would look like it's surrounded high rises. When looking west and southwest on The Esplanade it certainly does look like that. Does the market still have the prestige it does today?

In terms of the Queens Quay and Lower Donlands. I recall the time when the area used to look like a desolate industrial wasteland with abandoned railway lines that went to the Redbath Factory. It was certainly a place one wouldn't want to stay in. For it to be a place where the Olympic Village is again very striking and gives me awe. Do we have far more land reclamation as well on the harbour, likewise a bridge to the Toronto Islands?

On the note of Jarvis considering I live on Front and Jarvis, I would not have expected such an automobile heavy road yet small enough major road to have monorail. It seems too much of a dream for me in fact.

Just a minor note, "Carleton" is the incorrect way of spelling Carlton Street.

One last thing, can you explain the crime situation in Canada as this is the 1990s.

Thanks and keep up writing!
 
Hi.

First time here and I absolutely love the different timeline - very in-depth and intriguing.

Thank You. :)

The last post on the Toronto Games and how you mentioned Jarvis Street and the landscape within and around the St. Lawrence Neighbourhood is very striking. This is because I live in that neighbourhood and have been for all my life. It is for me a bit interesting to see the neighbourhood to be so built up with massive skyscrapers while in our timeline it's mainly low-rise apartments, office buildings, and historic buildings. To say the least, it will hard to recognize especially considering all sides of our neighbourhood would look like it's surrounded high rises. When looking west and southwest on The Esplanade it certainly does look like that. Does the market still have the prestige it does today?

To be fair, St. Lawrence Market isn't entirely built up, it just has a handful of large buildings, three of which are the Olympic Media Centres, simply for the reason you describe. I live in Toronto as well (Entertainment District, King and Spadina area :)) and I remembered that there were a few places in the East side of Downtown Toronto in the St. Lawrence Market area near the ITTL Olympic Village where I could put a handful of big buildings without screwing up the rest of the neighborhood. I was right - Front and Parliament IOTL is occupied on one corner by a Rent-A-Car place, ITTL its marked by a 56-story office tower, and the Esplanade Place ITTL is at Lower Sherbourne and The Esplanade, which IOTL is a parking lot and an empty lot where a gas station used to be. (The third building is a 41-story one on Front between Sherbourne and Frederick, IOTL occupied by a parking lot.) There is a few other newer tall buildings in the area, but the vast majority of the St. Lawrence Market areas of OTL remain just as they are today.

And yes, it does have the prestige of today, and the Monorail is going to help - Olympic Village station is accessible from both sides of the train tracks via pedestrian walkways, which means all the city's major sports arenas are an easy ride away, among other things - and so there will be more people in the area. ITTL, Toronto is gunning for more people in the downtown core (which will be the post-Olympics Monorail's purpose, not to mention the Lower Donlands and Exhibition GO stations and the Queen Street Subway) and so there are plenty of tall apartment towers in the core as IOTL, but the city is providing schools and parks and civic improvements so as to make sure families can live there as well. ITTL, the city's streetcar fleet was massively expanded (and many of the lines that IOTL were ripped out weren't) so transit in the center of the city, and the booming 1980s took the city's office market (which had been concentrated south of Bloor) and stretched it way, way north - North York is anchored by the massive Whittington Place between Yonge, Sheppard and the 401, along with Petro-Canada's complex on the West Side of Yonge north of Don Mills, and the CBC's new headquarters complex (completed in 1993, its telecommunications tower in 1996, just in time for the Olympics) at Yonge and Eglinton.

In terms of the Queens Quay and Lower Donlands. I recall the time when the area used to look like a desolate industrial wasteland with abandoned railway lines that went to the Redbath Factory. It was certainly a place one wouldn't want to stay in. For it to be a place where the Olympic Village is again very striking and gives me awe. Do we have far more land reclamation as well on the harbour, likewise a bridge to the Toronto Islands?

This Toronto built the (IOTL proposed but not built) Harbour City project in the 1960s, thus reclaiming about 500 acres off of the lake and tearing out the City Centre Airport, giving an easy and direct route to the islands via the ring road that was the center of the Harbour City project. Thus, since the islands are now accessible by streetcar, the ferries are gone aside from the Trillium and two of her sisters, which are there for charter and event uses and well-liked in that role. In addition, Ontario Place, which has been long merged with the Exhibition Place grounds next door, has a streetcar terminal and has seen the Sunnyside pools (originally demolished to make way for the Gardiner Expressway in the 1950s, rebuilt in the 1970s) stretch long along the lakefront south of the expressway, which only runs under the TTL's BMO Fieldhouse, and is above ground briefly to meet with the Black Creek Expressway (TTL's extension of Highway 400) which runs underground from north of Eglinton to OTL's King West Village, where is emerges from underground long enough to merge with the Gardiner before the Gardiner dives back underground, where it stays following a largely OTL route as far as Cherry Street. As the Gardiner is underground throughout the Downtown core it takes less traffic (and far less truck traffic) but municipal law in Toronto demands that major deliveries not be made during peak periods, and much better transit allows the traffic congestion problem to be far less than OTL. The much bigger Ontario Place of this world means the small and rather kitschy theme park on Center Island was never built, and the Yacht clubs have been moved to west of Sunnyside or south of Cherry Beach. The Toronto Islands not effected by Harbour City are today more like Toronto's Central Park.

To better answer your original question, everything that its there IOTL along Queens Quay east of Yonge save the Toronto Star building and the George Brown College at Lower Sherbourne is gone, including the Redpath Suger complex, which was razed to make way for Olympic Village. Toronto's rising land prices and municipal environmental laws with regards to water pollution drove the heavy industry out of the Port Lands in the 1970s and 1980s, and the opening of Studio Powerstation and Toronto's rapidly-growing film industry had the area all to themselves running up to this, and they took full advantage of it. MetroNome helps - this is the massive center for music proposed IOTL in the mid-1990s, sped up some to have it completed in time for the Olympics, based out of the Canada Malting site at the foot of Parliament Street. Industrial operations ended there in 1987, and ITTL the company sold the site to the MetroNome Foundation, who had by that point gathered up tens of millions in donations, and they immediately got to work, opening the site in 1995. The area across from MetroNome is home to the MetroNome monorail station, the new home of the Guvernment nightclub (its original site was razed for the Olympic Village) and a number of stores, a co-op housing project and the Harbourfront Ice Center, which is six NHL-size skating rinks stacking in two pairs of three.

The Olympic Stadium was built parallel to Cherry Street (Commissioners' Street was taken out where the Stadium is) and the two Piers west of Olympic Stadium is occupied by Waterfront Centre, which is like the Navy Pier in Chicago, complete with Children's Museum, Ferris Wheel, IMAX theatres, Observation Tower (622 feet tall), Tropical Botanical Gardens and Aviary, Go-Kart Track, Indoor Soccer Fields, two Indoor Skydiving Wind Tunnels, Swimming Pools (and wave pools at that) and a wide collection of shops and restaurants, all of which independents - Waterfront Centre wants to showcase the best of Toronto. All of this is indoors, something shared with arch-rival Ontario Place (which has a few advantages, namely water slides, two roller coasters and a variety of other attractions) and is rather necessary in Toronto in the winter. :)

On the note of Jarvis considering I live on Front and Jarvis, I would not have expected such an automobile heavy road yet small enough major road to have monorail. It seems too much of a dream for me in fact.

The monorail is an above-ground one similar with stations similar to Seattle, but is able to switch tracks (which Seattle's doesn't). The line into the city runs from the overhead line above the track approaches to Union Station north on Jarvis with stations at St. Lawrence Market (this station makes up the bridge over Jarvis into St. Lawrence Market), Moss Park (the station is south of Queen) and Ryerson East (halfway between Dundas and Gerrard), before hooking left onto Gerrard for two blocks then right onto Church, going up another couple blocks to terminate at Wood Street, across the street from Maple Leaf Gardens. It's primarily meant as an Olympics line, but for Ryerson students and those who work off of Yonge its a highly-useful line. Trains loop around at the station at Wood Street so that they can go straight back in the opposite direction they came. A later extension of it will take it up Church Street to Gloucester and then east on Gloucester into St. James Town as redevelopment begins there, allowing one to take the Monorail straight to the Financial District, and another line will go up Shaw Street past the Christie Pits before having a maintenance line to the TTC's Hillcrest Complex.

Just a minor note, "Carleton" is the incorrect way of spelling Carlton Street.

You are correct. I'll fix that.

One last thing, can you explain the crime situation in Canada as this is the 1990s.

Quite low in terms of violent crime and dropping rapidly in terms of property crime and illegal drugs, though prescription drug usage is a lingering problem. The Caribbean provinces have a higher crime rate (per capita) than mainland Canada, though not by much, and the Prairies have a higher crime than Central Canada and the Maritimes, though in terms of per capita crime the Territories top the provinces by miles. However, the rates of all forms of violent crime in Canada have been dropping since the late 1970s and rates of property crimes since the late 1980s. Canada's crime rate is about 60% of the United States per capita, but the United States ITTL is much, much lower than OTL.

The total number of crimes per 100,000 residents for violent crime ranges from about 650 in Ontario and 830 in Quebec to 1350 to 1450 in the Prairie provinces, 1600 to 1800 per 100,000 in the Caribbean and about 2300 to 2600 in the Territories. (Bear in mind this includes assault and uttering threats charges, which make up the vast majority of the violent crime charges.) For property crime, the best province alternates between Ontario, Quebec and Alberta, all about 2200 to 2300 charges per 100,000 population, with British Columbia a little higher (about 2500 per 100,000, on average). The Prairie Provinces (aside from Saskatchewan) and the Caribbean are here about level at 3000 to 3500 cases, with Saskatchewan averaging about 3750 per 100,000 on average. Again, the Territories are considerably higher. Drug offenses have been steadily dropping since Canada and the United States began pushing drug treatment programs in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Canada has about 65,000 people in prison, which is about 0.09% of the population, which is below the average for Central Commonwealth nations and is somewhat lower than the United States.

The biggest division is between different populations of Native Canadians, as Native Canadian populations in more remote locations have a considerably higher crime rate than ones in less-remote locations, and this includes places like Northern Ontario where populations have greater connections to larger centers - indeed, many of the communities of Northern Ontario are actually lower than the larger communities in terms of crime rates. The Caribbean regions still have greater inequality than the rest of Canada, though that inequality has been dropping steadily since the early 1970s.

Thanks and keep up writing!

Working on it. :)
 
How many nations, particularly African ones, are testing the waters in joining the Commonwealth?

All of the British-descended ones save the Arab states - South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Malawi, Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone - are all Commonwealth members. None are Central Commonwealth members (yet), but all are developing. Outside of those, Rwanda and Mozambique are members. Others (particularly Angola and Ivory Coast) are considering it.
 
All of the British-descended ones save the Arab states - South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Malawi, Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone - are all Commonwealth members. None are Central Commonwealth members (yet), but all are developing. Outside of those, Rwanda and Mozambique are members. Others (particularly Angola and Ivory Coast) are considering it.
Cool.
 

Ming777

Monthly Donor
The Mann, you mentioned Vancouver having a Metro system beginning just after WWII then having SkyTrain arrive with Expo 86 starting with 2 Lines, then 4 more Lines. What were you imagining as the history of Greater Vancouver's rapid transit system, the line routes, and other details?
 
Since people are asking about the Commonwealth, I figure I should explain what's different in this Commonwealth of Nations as opposed to our world, and what it does for the nations involved in it.

The Commonwealth ITTL is more or less way of uniting the former nations of the British Empire, but in modern times there is one important caveat - as a group of independent nations, nobody takes or gives orders, but everyone is free to make suggestions and ideas and improvements, and the primary goals of the Commonwealth in modern times are based on dispute resolution, economic growth, civil and labour rights, trade freedom, environmental protection and defense of its fellow members where it is necessary, the latter point a potent defense owing to the Commonwealth's ability to bring to hear immense military forces. Since Israel's accession in 1989, the Commonwealth has dropped the pretense that one needs to be a former British colony, and so talk of joining has included many nations, particularly those looking to get into the economic markets of the Commonwealth. The 'Central Commonwealth' nations take this a few steps further still by allowing visa-free travel and living within the borders of the country, which has been a major factor in growing social and economic relations between them. To maintain membership in the Commonwealth a nation has to maintain (as close as possible) the principles of the Salisbury Declaration - world peace, individual liberty, human rights, equality and fair and beneficial trade - and maintain friendly relations with other members of the Commonwealth. In the Anglosphere nations involved in this the Central Commonwealth has been influential in allowing them to work with each other as well as with the United States, and one of the results is that the Central Commonwealth nations' connections with Britain and Ireland has resulted in these nations have visa-free access to the European Union as well as with the British Isles, which has been supported by France, the Netherlands and the Scandinavian Nations as well. India is not yet a Central Commonwealth nation, but by the 1990s their rapid economic growth and huge domestic market has made them a place the rest of the Commonwealth wants to do business.

The Commonwealth has its organization based in London, with satellite offices in Montreal, Sydney, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Nairobi, Pretoria and Hong Kong, where citizens involved can seek information and help with regards to a nation involved in the Commonwealth and representatives of nations that are members of the Commonwealth can seek dispute resolution services, with both the Secretariat in London and the satellite offices being staffed with dispute resolution specialists, having been nominated by a member state and confirmed by representatives (usually at the meetings of the heads of state or heads of government) by two-thirds vote, and no specialist nominated by a member state can be involved in any resolution involving that nation. There is no legal requirement to stick to the results of that resolution, but in practice it is very rare that the resolutions do not get results. The most common disputes are economic in nature, but it is rare that the nations involved do not come to good resolutions, and in many cases the countries involved if they lose in dispute resolutions find ways of giving back advantages. The Central Commonwealth nations all have 'Commonwealth Ministers' who in effect are foreign ministers who deal exclusively in matters relating to members of the Commonwealth, and this is also true of many influential members of the Commonwealth outside the Central Commonwealth - India, South Africa, Israel and Chile all have such ministers. One of the results of this is while high-tech industry remains very much alive in the British Isles and White Dominions, India has overwhelmingly taken over the mantle as the Commonwealth's center for industry, a position which has provided India will millions of new jobs and pushed the environmental protection concern to the forefront. India's high population density, as well as its history of pollution incidents and industrial disasters - the infamous Bhopal Chemical Disaster in December 1984 drove this home as though with a sledgehammer - made sure of this. Likewise, South Africa's dark history in the apartheid era has pushed the idea of economic growth that benefits all to the forefront of Commonwealth. As all of the White Dominions have such laws, they found little difficulty with India and South Africa's desires.

The visa-free travel made sure that tourism and travel between the Central Commonwealth nations has boomed enormously since the dawn of the Jet Age, and today the tourist, trade and social connection routes between various portions of the Commonwealth are very, very busy. As many as 700,000 Brits, 65,000 Irish, 200,000 Australians, 25,000 New Zealanders, 150,000 Indians and 12,500 Israelis live in Canada as part of the visa-free living programs of the Commonwealth, a situation mirrored with Canadians living abroad. Canada's contributions to the trade of the Commonwealth include oil (Canada has been Britain's largest foreign source of oil since WWII), minerals, metals, aircraft and aircraft parts, cars, agricultural equipment and food in vast quantities, along with many niche markets including everything from some of the world's best coffee (courtesy of Jamaica and Trinidad), consumer electronics, some tropical woods and alcoholic beverages - Canadian whiskey is sold throughout the Commonwealth, and while the Australians (and increasingly South Africans) dominate the wine markets, Canada sells lots of its own wine, and everyone's beer is sold everywhere. British-built and Canadian-built luxury cars are common across the world, while Australia's creation of 'Utes' (and in modern times, South Africa's smaller 'Mini trucks', which the South Africans call 'Bakkies') have become a common sight across the Commonwealth, including Canada, which is a much larger market than the others for American-built cars, including pickup trucks and vans.[1] Canada's massive interest in General Motors and GM's Holden division and Canadian, Australian and Indian interests in British Leyland (which became Austin Rover Triumph in 1982 and was split into Rover Group, Triumph Automobiles and Leyland Heavy Industries in 1988) made sure that while American and British automobiles were available worldwide, local assembly was a very common occurrence, and many countries encouraged this as a job creation measure. Vickers, Hawker Siddeley, Canadair and Bombardier supply a huge portion of the aircraft used in the Commonwealth, along with the Concorde being used by Air Canada as well as Air France and British Airways, and Canadian money was the impetus for the Concorde B, which first flew in 1980.[2] Australia and South Africa's huge mineral wealth allows them to supply India with vast quantities of raw materials, which allows India to have the majority of the textiles business in the Commonwealth, both of the lower-priced variety but also many of the higher-end varieties as well. Canada is by far the largest non-European destination for British and Irish tourists (this also true for France, the Netherlands and Italy) and the 1990s and 2000s saw South Africa get into this game as well, doing particularly well with Australians and Canadians.

The Commonwealth's head is (and has been since its formation) the monarch of the United Kingdom, currently Queen Elizabeth II. The Commonwealth's rules have allowed Republics to be full members since its creation, and Elizabeth II has during her reign visited every Commonwealth member save Rwanda and Mozambique, and a number of her visits have been more than a little noteworthy, including visiting Jerusalem in April 1984, where she was greeted at the airport by both Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat at her arrival, and South Africa in June 1994, where she was a host of a gala held in honor of Nelson Mandela's inauguration, as well as being the first time a British monarch had visited South Africa since King George VI's 1947 visit which ultimately was a factor in the 1948 National Party victory. (Her Majesty, who knew this, spoke to Mandela about it, saying "I do hope my visit here will not raise trouble", to which Mandela replied "Most certainly not, Your Majesty, I believe your visit here speaks to what you and the people of the world believe will be our future." Indeed, Elizabeth II is known to be a big supporter of the Commonwealth and its goals and gains, and has been known to make strategic visits to help with the Commonwealth's goals. The Commonwealth's operational head is its Secretary General, who is almost always a prominent diplomat from a Commonwealth nation, who is elected at the Heads of Government Meetings for a four-year term and can serve two terms.

Part of the Commonwealth's importance is indeed the mutual defense agreements and treaties among the members. Under the rules, the Commonwealth was not obliged to support any other alliance (this done primarily with India's pushing so that they would, as they were non-aligned then, not get dragged into a NATO-Warsaw Pact conflict), but they are obliged to support one another in the event of one of the nations requesting it as a result of a direct attack. This provision has never been used - India has considered it against Pakistan but never actually used it, and the Commonwealth declined to talk of it during the Gulf War or Rwanda - but it remains active, and can be called upon. This provision is ignored by few, simply because of the immense forces involved - the Commonwealth members' military forces include nine aircraft carriers (three British, three Canadian, two Indian, one Australian), a battleship (HMS Vanguard), three battlecruisers (all Indian Navy), better than 200 ocean-going surface warships, sixty submarines, over 2000 combat aircraft and the ability to land over a division and a half of military forces anywhere in the world as needed and keep them supported. This immense jackhammer gives the Commonwealth members the ability to call on huge forces in the event of aggression, and during the Hong Kong Crisis of 1989-90 this hammer got shown off, and it got shown off the public in truly immense fashion in the 1999 Celebration of the 50th Anniversary of NATO, when the fleets of both NATO and the Commonwealth showed up in huge fashion.[3] The vast military power of the Commonwealth also assists with the support of their own industries - Britain, Canada and Australia retain sizable shipbuilding industries which create civilian vessels as well as military ones, as well as aerospace industries and electronics firms. The Panavia Tornado is the go-to attack aircraft for many of the Commonwealth's armed forces, and Britain, Canada and Australia (and South Africa after 2001) use the Challenger 1 and Challenger 2 main battle tanks, while other vehicles come from throughout the Commonwealth. India's HAL Dhruv light helicopter is quite well liked by many Commonwealth countries (particularly Australia) for its durability and ability to handle hot-and-high conditions, and the standardization of ammunition to the Commonwealth's standards (those being either 5.56x45mm or 7.1x43mm, the latter less common but used religiously by Canada and Australia) is slowly gaining traction. Canada's armed forces (and Australia, New Zealand and Israel, and to a lesser extent Britain) are based on having the absolute best training and equipment money can buy as a way of having the absolute best combat efficiency per soldier, and Canada's famed Defense Research Laboratories outside Ottawa and Valcartier Arsenal near Quebec City are some of the best places on Earth for the development of better infantry and small to medium-sized arms. In addition, Gerald Bull's famed Space Research Corporation in Toronto and its Cape Breton Test Range, makers of the world's best field artillery and mortar weapons, add to the advancements.

[1] There are lots of Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado and Dodge Ram pickup trucks in Canada, but Canada also buys lots of the smaller trucks, and the majority full-size pickups sold in Canada are sold with diesel engines owing to Canada's lower fuel taxes on low-sulfur diesel.

[2] The Concorde here was a result of work by Aerospatiale, Vickers and Hawker Siddeley, and flew first in 1974, just after the oil crisis, which severely hurt its commercial prospects. Despite this, Air Canada and Iran Air joined British Airways and Air France in buying the Concorde, and the Concorde B was a longer-ranged version, powered by Rolls-Royce Orenda engines (which didn't need noisy, fuel-hogging afterburners), pushing its operational range to 5,100 nautical miles. Air Canada's original Concorde routes ran from Montreal and Ottawa to London, Paris and Amsterdam, but service from Toronto to those cities in 1977, Barbados and Jamaica to London in 1979, Vancouver and Seattle to Hawaii in 1980, Montreal and Ottawa to Jamaica, Barbados and Trinidad in 1981 and Vancouver to Sydney via Hawaii and Fiji in 1984.

[3] The 1999 Fleet Review was attended by over 150 naval vessels came from 30 countries, including no less than nine aircraft carriers - HMS Queen Elizabeth II and HMS Invincible were joined by USS Enterprise and USS Abraham Lincoln, HMCS Canada, HMAS Australia, FS Charles de Gaulle, INS Vikrant and ITS Cavour - as well as HMS Vanguard and INS Arihant and the last gun cruiser left in the world, Peru's BAP Almirante Grau. NATO came out in force, with Spanish assault ship SPS Juan Carlos I leading the way of a fleet including warships from Portugal, Greece, Israel and Egypt, while French, Italian and Canadian units stayed with their carriers. Every Commonwealth member was represented - including new member Chile, who came with Nigerian frigate Aradu and South African supply ship Drakensberg with them. Dozens of civilian vessels and news helicopters took in the spectacle, showing it off around the world. Indeed, the Indians took home more than a little pride at seeing Britain's First Sea Lord, Admiral of the Fleet Sir Michael Boyce, returning salutes of Indian Navy members as he and her majesty inspected INS Vikrant and INS Arihant and their escorting fleet.
 
Very interesting development of the Commonwealth. I especially like how close the central Commonwealth is. One thing I did think about is that there could be a few more Commonwealth realms in this world, specifically Malta and Fiji. Fiji only became a republic after a military coup which could be butterflyed away.
 
I honestly did not expect you to be that quick with a reply.
Heh. Thanks for the very deep and thorough reply.

Sucks the parking lot at Front and Parliament is gone when I was a kid I used to brake check and drift with my cycle there often. Not much of a useful space, but eh.
Considering the entire harbourfront on Queensway has changed because of the Olympic village, there is no Sugar Beach as well?

Anyways I recall a point that discusses streetcar models, you mentioned the purchase of new streetcars presumably to replace the CLRV however can you clarify on the particular model or design?
 
I definitely like this version of the Commonwealth, it definitely helps balance the world in terms of alliances. Is Chile the only member of the Commonwealth in Latin America? Did the Falklands War still happen, or did that get avoided? What's Canada's involvement with the area (since Trinidad is basically a hop, skip and a jump from Venezuela and Guyana, and Jamaica shares a land border with Guatemala)?
Keep up the timeline it's great!
 
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