Giving away a Crown

Suppose there is a rightful King A and heir apparent B. They are overthrown and the rebels hand over the crown to a relative C. C dies and the new monarch is person D.

Could D willingly hand over the crown to B? I see two obstacles. First of all, almost everyone would prefer to be a monarch rather than a minor noble. I'm not saying a situation where B takes sections of the Kingdom and D decides to end the succession dispute by conceding, but I mean without even fighting between B and D.

Additionally, I think most Kingdoms can't be handed over the same way a manor house could be. Can these two obstacles be plausible overcome?
 
If D abdicates and he doesn't have a son or brother, it could go to B if A is dead and the relation is close enough (say first cousins or something). That's probably the only reasonable way.

Now, if a king was to say "screw it, I want this chump that I'm only loosely related to to rule", he can get off the throne, but it is more likely that the rest of the court would instead put D's closer relation E on the throne and just execute/exile B. It really all depends on how respected D is. If people like him and feel compelled to honour his wishes, then he can probably get away with it.

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In a way, something like this happened when Stephen of Blois decided to recognize Henry Plantagent as his heir following the death of his son.
 
In a way, something like this happened when Stephen of Blois decided to recognize Henry Plantagent as his heir following the death of his son.
Yes. Stephen adopted Henry as his son in order for Henry to inherit over his own sons (who apparently accepted the situation though the eldest conveniently died).
 
That's exactly what almost happened in the OTL during Queen Anne's reign. A was James II and VII, B was the Old Pretender, C was William and Mary, and D was Anne. And replacing the Hanovarian succession with the Old Pretender might have happened if Anne had lived a little longer.
 
That's exactly what almost happened in the OTL during Queen Anne's reign. A was James II and VII, B was the Old Pretender, C was William and Mary, and D was Anne. And replacing the Hanovarian succession with the Old Pretender might have happened if Anne had lived a little longer.
Only if she got it past Parliament. They weren't happy with the suggestion apparently.
 
In 1079 Bolesław II the Generous, King of Poland, was dethronized and exiled to Hungary with his only son Mieszko. Władysław Herman, Bolesław's younger brother, took power in Poland. In 1086 he called young Mieszko back to Poland. The same year Władysław's son, future Bolesław III was born and Mieszko was poisoned 3 years later, but if Władysław had no sons, then I think Mieszko could survive and succeede his uncle later.
 
Only if she got it past Parliament. They weren't happy with the suggestion apparently.

Wait what, she suggested it? I thought she was on bad terms with her Catholic father and brother. Or is was that guy saying if the situation was a bit different "A was James II and VII, B was the Old Pretender, C was William and Mary, and D was Anne" and she might be willing to hand over the throne?
 
Only if she got it past Parliament. They weren't happy with the suggestion apparently.
There were some in Parliament in favor, and they were growing in power. Granted Anne was possibly the origin of the rumor that the Old Pretender was a fake, so she might have told the pro-Stuart faction to go f--- themselves no matter how powerful they got.
 
Additionally, I think most Kingdoms can't be handed over the same way a manor house could be.

That really depends on the rules/laws of succession for that kingdom.

The situation described It might, for instance, be more likely if inheritance is decided by election/appointment. They may initially not want B, and then after D decide they like B now
 
Uhhh...

There were some in Parliament in favor, and they were growing in power. Granted Anne was possibly the origin of the rumor that the Old Pretender was a fake, so she might have told the pro-Stuart faction to go f--- themselves no matter how powerful they got.

OK so OTL Anne obviously wanted to be Queen if she told the Jacobites to f--- themselves. Also, Anne was the last Stuart monarch.

Is it possible for her to enthrone her brother with a POD after Mary's Death and William's continued rule? There are 3 obstacles. First is that OTL Anne wants to be Queen and I don't think we can get Anne to not want to be Queen with a POD after her childhood. Second, again bad terms with relatives. Third, England can't be handed over on a silver platter like a Manor house, "Papists" and their spouses are considered dead for the purposes of succession unless you buy that the Settlement Act was invalid due to the fact that the people who passed were the traitors (Jacobite reasoning).

You mention the Old Pretender might be favored over the Hannovers if Anne lived longer, but even if she had sway over Parliament (not implausible) I don't think she would want to do so, especially if she wasn't friendly with,
 
Stephan of Bolois example doesn't count unless you think he would willingly adopt his nephew the OTL Henry II if Robert of Gloucester, Empress Matilda, and Geoffrey Plantagenet sat on their thumbs and asked nicely.
 
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